Q Funding files letter from Falfas' attorney indicating he did not resign from Cedar Fair

Not disussing politics. Discussing mostly Tek's (and others) unhealthy obsession with censoring my opinions while reserving their own right to bash Bush/Palin, etc. I know you see the double-standard, even though the ends justify the means...

Ok, I see your point - but you could do that in an "EMAIL" or other private message. Spare the rest of us the gossip.

Or keep it in two sentences or less... It's not what you can say but what you actually do say...

I assure you Jerry...as soon as Tek and others decide to voice their criticisms via private messages, I will respond in kind. Seems like a fair and reasonable compromise...

Aamilj said:

Any chance that this is just not a very friendly/accommodating place? Or is it always somebody Else's fault?

Then why do you demand to stick around?

Any chance your sense of perspective is skewed? Since their were 8 comments in front of your eyes that you mistook as "one or two?" That is 300-400% away from reality...

Sorry, I just didn't feel the need to go back and count, since, you know, the topic came back around to the posted topic.

I was on topic as much as the eight (8) prior posts denouncing Bush/Palin.

And God forbid someone do that without having someone who HAS to come in and demand we read a list of Obama's gaffes. There are plenty of other long timers here that don't like Obama, but they didn't rush to do it, only you. Because you're not interested in coasters, only politics, and sticking around to annoy the rest of us.

Mr. Falafas, it has been contended, hired stupid attorneys.

And we discussed that days ago. While you sat back and said nothing, since it didn't have to do with politics.

To mock said attorneys we/you made fun of George Bush/Palin as a comparison.

And it was a funny comparison that ended 3 days prior. It was to make a point. It wasn't an invitation to argue, yet again, how Obama is no better than Bush. No one cares about that but you.

I came on here and pointed out the current president thinks there are 58 states, etc.

Three days after the thread had gone back to the original topic. Because I think you scan the news discussion forums looking at ways to talk about politics. Lord knows you barely spend any time in any of the other forums, where, you know, we don't talk about news stories that may have a political slant.

It is all light-hearted and fun...except you seem to take it so serious.

First, I'm far from the only person in this thread that came out against your comments, nor was I even the first (and according to Travis, he would have before either myself or the other poster did as well). And you honestly think we don't see what you're doing? It wasn't all in light hearted fun. You did it to get a reaction. You got it, but now Tek is picking on you again.

Why so serious? Why so angry that you would misrepresent reality by 300-400%?

No anger, only annoyance. And I apologize that I didn't rush back to get the correct amount of people that deviated correct, I was on my iPhone and was in a rush.

There is always a new hurdle with you Tek. You reach as far as you can to find something to make it personal. First my posts were too long. Then I was not coaster enough for you. Now I waited too many days for your liking. Why not take on the post instead of the poster?

No, it's always the same thing. It's all related. You're here as a poser because you found a forum where you can argue with a bunch of people about your politics. You've insulted us because we are 'too coaster'. You write novels and when people complain, you run and quickly post a BS trip report, or comment in another thread just so you can act like you're here for the same reasons we are. And why should I take on the post, since it was all in light hearted fun? Because you want to argue politics with a bunch of people that don't care for you.

News Tek... This board had political conversation well before I came and will long after I leave.

Yep, and as someone who has been around since close to the beginning, I can say that that's fine. We all go off topic once in a while. Which is different from you, because you're rarely, if ever, on topic.

If I was dogging on Bush/Palin 3 days past your new magical date...you would say NOTHING.

Yes I would. You don't know me at all. You don't know my political leanings at all. You read what I post on a message board, which is usually arguing a cause, and rarely political leanings, and think that I'm some leftist Obamaniac. I'm far from that. I'm just not one to sit back while you come in with you're "My opinion is the only right one" attitude and let it slide. And anyone who knows me knows that I've argued with many people, many of which I actually agree with, over the years, when they come in with the attitude that their opinion is the only relevant one.

You know this, and so does every reasonable minded person reading this thread.

Funny, though, that there are more people coming in complaining to your face about you than the ones that don't have the guts to tell me what they think about me.

Your only beef is you don't like my opinions.

No, my only beef is that you herald your opinions as the only one that matters, and you don't give a dang about coasters or theme parks.

My hunch is you didn't like Jeffrey A Smith's

Yeah, he was much like you, so bingo there.

or Moosh's either.

What the heck are you talking about? Moosh is a personal friend of mine that I've known for the better part of a decade. Andy asked where Moosh was, I said that Jeff and Dave both said something in a thread to Moosh that he didn't particularly like, so he's taking a break. You have no idea what you're even talking about now. Moosh was smart enough never to give his political opinions. And he is one of the most respected geeks that posts here, and someone that I have the utmost respect for. If you're going to run your mouth, at least know what you're talking about.

Those with a conservative slant are expected to walk on eggshells and cower to groupthink...while those with leftest views can be as extreme as they want to be.

Wow. First off, You don't know which way I lean. Second, I've argued with Jeff, Gonch, and plenty others with left and right leanings. If you don't like it, perhaps you should go to RightLeaningBuzz.com. If you think that people like Gonch or RGB, both of which are rather right leaning, walk on eggshells or cower EVER, you're an idiot.

In the end, unless Jeff bans you or tells you not to post, no one here can censor your rights to bash Obama. But unlike you, the rest of us bash someone occasionally, not every time we post.

P.S. Don't ever private message me, regardless of what Jerry says.

I'll let you handle the length of that one Jerry. As for his obsession, I just hope he was not driving while typing on his I-phone...I don't want anyone to get hurt. As for his assertion that I have EVER said my opinion is better than others (challenge to anybody to find that I said that ever)...well let us just look at the first two sentences of my post that has his panties all wadded up...

I love presidential gaffs too. Bush was surly the greatest in the artform.

Does this sound like a man that did not respect the other 8 political opinions that came before him?

First you are 300-400% off on your numbers, now you are making crap up Tek. Your anger is getting the best of you. I always like your political takes. It is your inability to take on posts and make everything personal that is unbecoming. I mean this in all sincerity. There is not a mean bone in my body, yet your obsession/anger shines through. I feel bad for you. There is just no reason some random message board participant with a strong opinion should illicit such a response. I respect any and all opinions. I hold your right to an opinion as precious as I hold my own. That is why you won't find me trying to censor you or anybody that agrees with you. Why such a need to censor mine?

I'll let you handle the length of that one Jerry

Now who isn't addressing posts? I wanted to see at least a response to that nonsense about Moosh. I guess that, as with anything, you take snippets of what we say and mold it to whatever it is you want to say to prove your 'point'.

First you are 300-400% off on your numbers, now you are making crap up Tek.

LOL, whatever. Sorry that, like you with my opinion of you not being coaster enough, I didn't spend enough time to go back and count.

Your anger is getting the best of you.

Everyone is always angry, but when we say you come across as angry, we're wrong. Whatever.

I always like your political takes.

Please don't lie. You don't read my political takes. You take out what you need to try and argue your point and discard the rest.

It is your inability to take on posts and make everything personal that is unbecoming.

I don't take on the political posts because this isn't PoliticalBuzz.com, it's CoasterBuzz. And your continued presence is annoying to me. And just as you're allowed to post your political opinions all over the place, I'm free to post how I feel about your posts. And you don't know me well enough to know what is unbecoming. Perhaps I am just a miserable troll. But you haven't been here long enough, nor read enough of anything without a political theme in it to know anything about me.

I mean this in all sincerity.

Don't be patronizing. It's getting old, and you still don't get it.

There is not a mean bone in my body,

I never said you were mean. Annoying, smug, with an apparent superiority complex, but that doesn't make you mean.

yet your obsession/anger shines through.

Yep. Totally obsessed. As is every other person that would like for you to at least try and be a part of the community instead of the poser that you are.

I feel bad for you.

Why? I don't need you to feel bad for me. There isn't any reason to. I'm sure no one here does. Oh, that's right, you're trying to take the 'high road' here. Because you're the better person.

There is just no reason some random message board participant with a strong opinion should illicit such a response.

I'd really like an answer to this, and I'm thinking I speak for more than just myself, but, do you get why you evoke such a strong response? It's far less political than you think.

I respect any and all opinions.

You just want to make sure that your opinions are at the forefront and demand that we be bombarded with yours as well.

I hold your right to an opinion as precious as I hold my own. That is why you won't find me trying to censor you or anybody that agrees with you. Why such a need to censor mine?

BECAUSE YOU'RE ON A FREAKING COASTER AND THEME PARK MESSAGE BOARD! NO ONE WANTS TO READ A BUNCH OF ANTAGONISTIC, POLITICALLY CHARGED COMMENTS THAT READ LIKE A NOVEL EVERY TIME YOU POST! It isn't about censoring your opinion, it's about freaking staying on topic! Jeez, you're so freaking dense to not understand that. I don't go on political boards and try to censor anyone. Heck, I don't have the ability to do it on here. If you made a comment here and there, it would be different. You OBSESS about politics on a board where the most important elections each year are Mitch's Poll (I'm sure you'll want to google that one) or the Golden Tickets.

You get off on arguing with people, you argue with a condescending tone, you're patronizing, and you have insulted based on opinions that are based on the fact that we like coasters. On a coaster message board. And you stick around. Knowing that you're going to have a good 3 or 4 people be argumentative, and, in your opinion, censor you. If that doesn't speak to your character, based on the fact that we know nothing else about you (where as many of us know each other personally, and have better context), then I can't say what does.

And by the way, because that's how I took the implication, if you think that I'm not going to disagree or call someone out that I'm friends with, take a look at my post on this page. That was in response to AVMatt. We're going to Disney World in 3 weeks. Doesn't mean I won't disagree with his opinions or call him out for something I disagree with.

Ugg. Go away already. You can't take a hint, and you are bordering on trolling, new guy.

You are not being "censored", because the moderators of this amazing roller coaster enthusiast community haven't done anything about you yet. I suspect that they are having a laugh watching you dig and dig, and they plan on knocking you out of the circle soon enough. You have been told by too many people here that we don't care for the excessive politopics that you so gleefully go on and on about. I've already called you out as not having a real interest in the amusement industry...

Which begs the question, why are you still here? CoasterBuzz is the worst place for someone to take care of their political erection.

There's not a mean bone in my body either. I just want my favorite amusement park and roller coaster website back to normal, without the endless debates about how stupid our president is or whatever.

I'm beginning to wonder if you really are a new guy, of if you are just having a laugh yourself.

Aamilj said:
...unhealthy obsession with censoring my opinions...

No one is censoring anything. That said, I'm going to ask you once to let go of the political crap, the victim crap, etc. You're disrupting the tone around here, and I'm not fond of it. Give it a rest, or please go elsewhere.

That is why you won't find me trying to censor you or anybody that agrees with you. Why such a need to censor mine?

From Webster himself:

If you're being censored, why do I keep seeing your posts?

You guys keep it up. I think you're all on the verge of swinging the other guy to your way of thinking. Another board I read trumpets the idea that "if you ignore the riff raff, eventually it will go away." You guys claim to be so terribly annoyed by Aamilj respond to him every, single, time and put him that much closer to winning the interweb. What's that saying about winning on the internet?

Edit; I've tried a million different ways to insert the definition of "censor" from Webster and I can't get it in there. You get the idea from the posts right before mine.

Censor: to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable

bigboy: Once you paste to the board...highlite...and hit the red circle thingy! This typically works. Though it can be a bit buggy!

Jeff:

Since this is your site and you asked...I will respect your wishes. I never thought it was Tek's place. As a conservative I respect the right of private enterprise to do whatever the heck they want. I've learned a lot about coasters from this site, but have not had the opportunity to show much. I'm not sure what I can add to track reprofiling of Intimidator...and this side of the Disney thread, which I participated in, there has not been a lot of coaster talk to hop on. It has been news forum dominated. Anyhow, back to normal...I'll bite my tongue so as to not upset the apple-cart.

Would an occasional "smily" face as a reminder that I "think" the lefties may be going a bit overboard be acceptable? Or is that too dicky?

Also, I am going to SoCal Wed evening...probably hit a few parks. Is a trip report ok...or should I wait awhile?

No one has deleted anything you wrote.

I miss Moosh also.

Please note-that's not to be inferred either for or against any sort of political stance.

Jeff:

You indeed have not deleted any post of mine to date. I thank you for the past opportunities topost my opinions uncensored. Up untilyour recent post, I was speaking of Tek et al when I spoke of censorship. From day one he has made it his mission to disruptmy posts. He has done so not on merit ofthe discussion, but instead by making it personal (douche bag, too long, notcoaster enough, troll, etc). In my veryfirst participation Tek asked you to “stop” me…”put an end to this.” If this is not the actions of one who “suppresses”other’s opinions, I do not know what is. From the sound of your recent post, it sounds as if Tek has finallyfound a willing ear to implement his desires.

Now, you have made it clear that I have to “tone down” myopinions or go elsewhere. While Idisagree that I am the one who has perpetrated an odiferous tone around here, Iam more than willing to comply with your requests as I respect your right to doas you please. Free speech does notapply to private entities. If you feelmy actions are such that you need to remove my posting privileges, I acceptthat as well.

If you allow me to remain I will be the only poster burdenedwith the threat of removal for the “tone” of my opinions. But I sleep comfortably knowing that thisside of calling Tek a Remora…which I apologized for…I was and am certainly notresponsible for the vitriol demonstrated here lately. That burden falls on some of your long-time contributors. In lieu of abilities, restraint, or effort,they chose the path of personal destruction rather than deal with deliberation.

On this very thread I am guilty of much less than those youprotect. Bush and Palin’s stupidcomments deserve no greater protection than Obama’s. If posting Obama’s stupid comments indeed risesto the level of “tone” disruption, while Bush/Palin comments go unchallenged,then some soul-searching is in order.

Do as you see fit. Ifully expect to be removed…which ironically would prove my charges. But if you decide to look at this objectivelyand allow me to remain… Consider me theEminem album in the Wal-Mart!

You know what I really dislike? Self-righteousness.

You still have no clue. This roller coaster enthusiast website isn't about you or your political views, Ailmeeljay. Looking at the big CoasterBuzz picture, you are not that important.

Jeff:

Late Christmas gift idea - A Craigslist-esque Flagging system for Coaster buzz posts..... Where do I contribute? Send me your Paypal addy. (and yes I'm sure some of my posts would be flagged, but I'd take it in exchange for not reading this psyco-babble.....)

You can click the club links above and join, for $25 a year. We'll send you a membership card and turn off the ads. :)

I didn't read the likely self-righteous nonsense above, but I suspect he still thinks it's about his political opinion and not the fact that he's just making noise. If it was really about political opinions, Gonch wouldn't be doing the podcast, let alone be someone I consider a friend.

Aamilj said:
Jeff:

Do as you see fit. Ifully expect to be removed…which ironically would prove my charges. But if you decide to look at this objectivelyand allow me to remain… Consider me theEminem album in the Wal-Mart!

I vote for proving his charges.

Be that as it may...the fact that Jeff has some editorial control of his website (and uses it) is one of the reasons I have been a long time participant. If this type of stuff were on the site on a regular basis then I'd be long gone. There are plenty of other places on the internet to find crap like this.

I love that censorship on a niche forum is 'wrong'. I didn't know Coasterbuzz was anything other than a dictatorship (that we all agree to participate in).

I bet this guy is a Hoot at his company Christmas parties - and other social events... Kinda like the one you steer clear of.