PKI 2003- Symbol on the Fence?
I'm going to agree with PKI fanatic here. I think the phrase "Pardon our dust" is the clue. The target is simply the Action Zone logo. I've been milling over the possibilities for a few days, and can only come up with some type of spinning flat ride. I've talked with Jeff Siebert a few times this year, and of course he is totally tight lipped, so no clues out of him.
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swOHman a.k.a. Brian
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"Have fun stormin' the castle!"
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"He he (I am laughing AT you, not with you). "Please pardon our dust" is an often used term. I've seen it countless times. One time I saw a sign that said exactly the same thing on a wall sectioning off half of the bridge over Dudley Do Rights Rip Saw Falls. Should I have thought that it was a clue that they where going to theme that side of the bridge to a tornado? Of course not. I allready knew from expierance that it was being repainted. It is a common term, especially at amusement parks.
If the symbol is in fact the AZ logo, then the wall has no clues to give us. If that is in fact true, we can dismiss the rumor that somebody who is close to the park ( I've heard a few different names in a few different stories) said that the wall has a clue. "
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O.K. before I state the obvious here I wanna know something first. O.K. when you saw this little posted note what did the ride turn out to be? The Dudley Do Rights Rip Saw Falls? Well, if that is it then let me say this! HA fool! ("I am laughing at you not with you") O.K. let me calm down here and ask you one more question. What do saw's produce? I know this is so complicated but c'mon what do saw's produce? D-U-S-T! See it was a hint. But only to the name. Dust = Saw. Saw= The Dudley Do Right Rip SAW Falls. Boom! There ya have it. The saying was a clue after all. Thank you and goodnight!
Now pkifanatic, let's assume that what you say is true and it was indeed a clue. The only thing that it was a clue for was the name of the ride, not the actual ride itself. Let's face it, any ride can be built and have the word "saw" included in it somewhere. Now if it was a clue into the name of the ride, then big deal...who really cares what the name of a ride is anyway. It was a clue about a name, a clue about something meaningless, a clue that truly meant nothing at all.
Happy Coastering!
Sean
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This thread is cracking me up.... and no doubt probably giving the folks at PKI a chuckle or two too.
Here's what I think:
"Pardon our dust" probably means "Pardon our dust"
"Exciting new attraction coming in 2003" probably means "Exciting new attraction coming in 2003."
There is not much to deduct from this sign.
As far as what CAN be deducted.... The word "exciting" should lead you only to believe that it will deliver a thrill of some sort. I know for a fact that the park has confirmed that definitely a "ride" will go in the spot. So the only fact we have here is that it is indeed a new ride, probably a thrill ride, and will be built in that location for the 2003 season.
I don't necessarily think that the "aiming/target" thing is representative of the ride's final logo or themeing. It may hint at it, but probably is not part of the final signage. How so? Well a PKI rep just told us at the Travel Channel shoot a few weeks ago that they were just inking the deals for the 2003 attractions that very day. Turnaround for logo art and decisions is typically not that quick. The park has said it will announce the new attraction(s) late summer. That in itself should explain that they are currently developing their marketing and announce plans for the ride... that would include logo approval.
Thus it all adds up to this: The ride supplier deal has (probably) been inked by now. When it was inked, PKI proceeded with pursuing an initial "teaser" typical of the park each season. The inked deal probably just solidified that a certian ride type by a certian manufacturer was indeed going to be installed in the old KC area. In the meantime, PKI marketing is taking advantage of the fence to begin their strategy of tempting curious folks back to the park. It may be reminiscent of the final theming "idea" but that's it. In the meantime I expect theming and logo creation and decisions are underway at PKI with PPD&E and are being prepped for the true announcement late in the daily operational season.
I would bet money at this point in time that it is NOT a coaster. Don't get your hopes up for one folks.
Shaggy
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Shaggy
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*** This post was edited by Shaggy on 6/13/2002. ***
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I am with you Shaggy...Every time I read a new post on this thread, it gets more entertaining.
pkifanatic, They haven't given us the name of the ride...if "dust" in fact has anything to do with the ride, then what?!?! What exactly could it possibly be telling you about the ride?!?! I could rattle off about a thousand things that could revolve around that "clue". I would have better luck guessing what the ride would be without the "clue". Face it, even if "dust" is a clue, it doesn't tell you anything. So just sit back and wait for the press release. All this guessing can only lead to disappointment when people find out that it's not the ride they thought or hoped for.
Happy Coastering!
Sean
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"Have fun stormin' the castle!"
Well, I am gonna get up to preach now.... so be forewarned.
I just want to point out what is so typical of enthusiasts, and quite honestly frustrates me.
Already, we have immense speculation as to what the new for 2003 attraction is at PKI. Already folks here and on other boards are getting their hopes set high for a huge coaster installation.... or an elaborate shoot 'em up ride etc.
But come announcement time, or when the ride opens, all of those now banking some mammoth addition will readily post lots of "that new ride sux", or "what a gyp" type posts about PKI's decision.
OIY VEY
Too often, enthusiasts get their hopes set so high they are bound to become dashed at announcement time, no matter what the attraction is and whatever park. Why? Because whatever the new attraction is, it can't live up to the pre-concieved notions enthusiasts fabricate in their own minds.
Now, I already know what many will say to this "Well it's PKI's fault for teasing us or misleading us with that in-park sign."
If that is your reaction, then you are totally blind to the way parks work. First, the sign is not there to create mass speculation as to what it may be. Now, sure, the park hopes that it will cause visitors to think "Hmmm, I wonder what may go there. I'll have to come back and see." But I guarantee the main reason for the sign is to help explain to curious/concerned guests why a popular attraction may not exist in that spot any longer. A general public guest is less apt to question or become aggitated as to why the King Cobra is gone if they see a sign explaining something else "new" and "exciting" is going there. Said guest would probably then shrug it off allieviating a complaint. It is a means of the park being pro-active rather than re-active.
However the enthusiasts mentality leads many to psycho-analyze exactly what each word or symbol means. But I bet when PKI put it up there they weren't twirling their mustaches, or wringing their hands thinking..."Hee Hee lets put a target symbol on it to get those pesky enthusiasts talking..." Yet upon annouce, that is exactly what those dissapointed enthusiasts will percieve as deception.
**See Footnote at bottom**
I digress....
Now the speculation is fun. But too often the rumors end up with enthusiasts expecting something totally off the mark. I mean how many will now admit to all the confirmations we saw them post on this or other boards about they type of coaster TR:TR was prior to the announce? NONE!
Now I am not guilt free of off mark speculation myself. But I guess my difference in thinking is I get excited about the actual decision PKI is making about installations, rather than what desicions I think they are making. Make sense? That way I am more often pleasantly surprised and pleased with what I see, hear and experience there. And I typically do not walk away feeling gypped or let down because the ride was not what I had imagined it to be.
That is, IMO a good suggestion for everyone. Speculation is fun. Imagining what it could be is fun. Trying to guess is fun. However, if you allow your hopes and guesses of something you want to see installed become prevalent in your mind, you are bound to be dissapointed when you don't get it.
Thus I say wait and see. They will tell us when it is time.
Shaggy
**Foot note**
Typically PKI only erects such signage prior to an announce when a new attraction has prompted removal or closure of a former or existing one. Examples: Singage was placed on sites of KCKC, KMLF, and now KC prior to their replacement attractions were announced since the new installations warranted their closure. Rides placed in un-developed areas that were not home to previous attractions do not receive such signage until the announce is made. Examples are SOB, Face/Off, Drop Zone, Rugrats, FOF, Action Theatre etc etc etc.
*** This post was edited by Shaggy on 6/12/2002. ***
Shaggy, I think you know that I personally would never say anything negative about the park whether I thought it was true or not ;) (of course, there are some facts that need to be faced at times, but overall the park is full of positives), so if they announce they're going to install the world's first spinning ice cream parlor, I wouldn't mind even if I thought they might get a hyper, giga, B&M, mega flat ride, shoot em up, etc. to begin with. I would shrug it off and enjoy that ice cream parlor for all its worth! Of course, I might like to see this or that more, but I wouldn't be disappointed since there is so much already there.
But, you're right that a lot of people can be that way as in expecting too much or something different and I clearly remember what happened with TRTR at points of time. Most of the things I was proposing about what they could get was in shear fun even with the "dust" and "symbol" stuff just to get people talking about the park, because its fun to do. Since others do get let down sometimes, I'll try to steer clear of some of my 'hype' I'm giving so not to disappoint others. I see your point and you're right, so thanks for reminding me what this can do.
Thanks for the update!
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Danny
"Pardon our dust" probably means "Pardon our dust"
No, defiantly not. The comment is located above the "Exciting new attraction coming in 2003" remark so that tells us that "Pardon the dust" is a teaser comment not an apology because the workers are going to stir up dust. I mean c'mon I would think a smart person like yourself Shaggy would be smart enough to know that stirring up dust in that location of the park is suicide. The King Mills and Cincinnati is already the worst place in the country to have allergies so why add to the mix with more dust and pollution. Face it the comment is being taking to literally and it almost has to have something to do with the ride.
"pkifanatic, They haven't given us the name of the ride..."
I can't believe you said that. What do you think I am? A retard with a fork? Well, I am not. I know that they haven't givin us a name and I didn't even post that I did. And the word dust could certainly tell you something. It could hint at a possible name. Or a possible ride. Just put two and two together and you could receive an idea of what the word dust could mean. Someone said that the sign is a clue. A clue is not "Exciting new attraction coming in 2003?, that is just stating the obvious. It is common since that something is going to go in the spot. So if there is a clue in the sign then it can only be the comment. It is almost like it is a slogan.
The above mentioning are my view and my views only don't hate or criticizes them.
Your kidding, right pkifanatic? Oh of course you are!... I just re-read the thread.
Do folks here honestly think PKI would add a ride with "dust" as it's theme?
As said....."Please pardon our dust" is a slogan used on whordes of construction site signs. It's a nice way of saying "Sorry this area looks like crap." Nothing more.
Shaggy
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*** This post was edited by Shaggy on 6/12/2002. ***
Dust.....dust.....hmmmmm....what could it be?
Perhaps the old 70's rock band Kansas is helping build a ride for PKI? Think about it..."Dust in the Wind" could be a coaster, after all you feel wind on a coaster.
Or perhaps movie director John Waters is helping PKI build a new ride themed after his movie "Lust in the Dust," starring Divine and Tab Hunter? It was a western, so maybe a Sally dark ride where you shoot at crossdressers? [note: in no way to I condone shooting crossdressers].
Or perhaps the ride will be themed after Stevie Nick's hit song "Gold Dust Woman" or techno music producers the Dust Brothers?
Other possible ride names: Dust Bowl, Dust Mites, Angel Dust, Bite the Dust, Dust Storm, Fairy Dust, Dust Jacket, Dust Buster, Pixie Dust, Dust Cloud...the posibilities are endless.
But yes, I agree...."Pardon Our Dust" must definitely be a clue.
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Mamoosh said:
Or perhaps movie director John Waters is helping PKI build a new ride themed after his movie "Lust in the Dust," starring Divine and Tab Hunter? It was a western, so maybe a Sally dark ride where you shoot at crossdressers? [note: in no way to I condone shooting crossdressers].
'moosh, when we finally get around to building the 18 and over park of our dreams, this ride is an absolute must! But instead of shooting cross-dressers, we'll shoot at the aliens trying to abduct John Waters!
I have connections I will figure what this stupid comment means. Oh, wait I don't have to because it has nothing to do with construction workers creating dust. Why? Well, A (a) if there is a ride going in there chances are it won't have a building around it, which means if they start building then the mystery of the ride would be reveled. So, there will be no dust to be pardon because construction won't start until the park is closed. And (b) as said before the stirring of dust will frighten some guest away from that location of the park.
"Do folks here honestly think PKI would add a ride with "dust" as it's theme?"
Of course not. If you did re-read the whole post you whould have read where I said that maybe it has something to do with the name. Tornado is a common name for thrill rides. Tornado's stir dust. Other things that stir up dust are mice. There is a type of coaster called a wield mouse, I know you have heard of it. If you still have not got te picture yet. Mice also stir up dust. And mice is plural for mouse. It just speculation.
Man are you stretching.
I am not trying to slam you personally at all. I just can't help but be amused that there are actually thoughts that "Pardon our dust" is elluding to a Wild Mouse coaster or such.
I bet if I tried, I could somehow manage to connect a 400 foot Intamin Hyper to "dust" Oh, I know! It's going to be called the "Dust Bunny" and will have more bunny hops than any other hypercoaster!
Shaggy
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Shaggy
A.K.A. John K.
My personal view on this is let it go people :-)
PKI will tell us what the 2003 attraction is in due time, almost certainly not before the end of this season. For the time being let's simply enjoy the *current* season and let the chips fall where they may in the off.
Too many people on here seem to be locked into the mindset that PKI is trying to match CP installation for installation and it's just not the case. PKI has it's own market that it caters to and it's under pressure to put in new rides but shouting for a Terra only a couple of years after they put in the world's tallest woodie is ridiculous IMHO. PKI already has a *huge* coaster collection, this isn't to say that they aren't going to install more in the future but when they do I *would not* expect it to be a huge record breaking steel, sure, that's a possibility, but why set hopes that high to begin with and almost certainly end up disappointed?
I haven't been down to the park since 2000 but the change-over from OTSR's to Laps on FOF last year was pretty close to a new installation in my book :-) TR:TR also seems like a fine choice to help expand their flat collection and I'll be happy to take a spin or two on it with a completely open mind. I think too many people pre-judge (and harshly at that...) PKI's choices. I'm not a fan of SOB but it's definitely drawn people to the park and given them some more word of mouth throughout the midwest (and country after the recent Discovery show...) and consequently, increased their profits, which is the name of the game.
In short, just go out and ride and let *Paramount* worry about the new attraction for the time being. There's just no point in making wild guesses at this point when we've got nothing more than a logo and a simple construction sign to go on.
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