Photos from closing weekend show Impulse likely for Cedar Point beach

Posted Monday, October 29, 2001 5:57 AM | Contributed by Jeff

If you weren't convinced last time around, check out the photos from the photos from Cedar Point on closing weekend. The footers being poured suggest a series of supports and a tower support consistant with an Intamin Impulse design.

Link: Guide to The Point

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Monday, October 29, 2001 6:11 AM
I'm feeling a quote coming on from the comedic classic... err... 'Liar Liar'

"...and the truth SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!!"

I find it hard to believe that someone who knows what's happening would actually turn us wrong, so what the hell? Intamin Impulse it is!

And those footers do look somewhat like the early construction photos from V2 at Six Flags Great America, so it makes sense.

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Monday, October 29, 2001 6:21 AM
Man, it must be a pain in the butt to build something like that into sand.  The water level can't be more than, what, 10 feet down?

Looks to be a good 2002 season for CP.

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Monday, October 29, 2001 6:54 AM
I don't believe anything until I see CP saying what it is. What if this is not an Intamin impulse??? Everyone is assuming it is because of the similarity of the footers as compared to other impulses. I would say lets all hold our horses until we get the final announcement from CP.
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Monday, October 29, 2001 6:54 AM
That's what I was thinking. It doesn't seem like a very solid surface to build on, but what do I know. How far is it from the edge of the water? Maybe it'll periodically be a log flume too!
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Monday, October 29, 2001 7:15 AM
I have many idea on what it could be.But can they build a coaster over sand? i think it looks like a boardwalk could be going up and then a coaster somewhere around that area.But thats just a thought,im just ganna wait and see what pops up in 2002 and whatever it is im sure it will be worth the wait.
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Monday, October 29, 2001 7:22 AM
Why couldn't they build a coaster over sand? Where do you think Magnum's pretzel return is? That's on the beach and its stood there for now 12+ years. There's no problem with coasters on a sandy beach.

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Monday, October 29, 2001 7:23 AM
If they can build a bridge over water and an airport over an ocean (Japan), then they can build a tiny Impulse coaster in some sand.
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Monday, October 29, 2001 7:36 AM
Some of your responses amaze me. Folks, we're in the 21st century, engineers now a days can do some relatively cool things.  Why most everyone second guess everything.  yeesh.
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Monday, October 29, 2001 7:39 AM
It seems that people are forgetting that all of CP is basically a big sand bar.  Look back at early construction pics of MF, the entire area was beach-like.
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Monday, October 29, 2001 8:05 AM
Why would CP build the same type of coaster that resides a little over an hour away, even if thiers was to be a little bigger? Doesn't really sound like the CP I know. Time will tell.
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Monday, October 29, 2001 8:13 AM
CP is not a sand bar.  The penninsula contains solid bedrock.  Its formation was carved by glaciers.  Don't worry - CP's new ride will not sink! :)

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Monday, October 29, 2001 8:20 AM
Phil: Because if your impulse is 100ft taller than said impulse 1 hour away, then people will go to your park to ride one, not SFWoA.  People who've ridden floorlesses and flying dutchmans, but not an impulse may say "lets go to SFWoA for S:UE," but if CP has an impulse that's even bigger and faster, it becomes "Let's go to CP to ride the impulse...their's is bigger and better anyway."

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Monday, October 29, 2001 8:50 AM
I think I've got this whole thing figured out...

This is all blatant conjecture, but bear with me. The first thing we know is that it will have much better capacity than S:UE.

How? easy. Run two trains. Here's my take on it.

450 degrees is a funny amount, it essentially makes you take a 90 degree turn. Everyone has assumed that the coaster must be shuttle because the footers end abuptly. However, with a 540 degree rotation, you end up facing 90 degrees from the axis you launched on, say, pointing RIGHT AT THE PARK. Now we also know that this wil be bigger than S:UE and have about the same twist per foot. Another 90 degrees only gets you fourty feet higher or so. Not much in CP terms. However, another 90 feet then a curve gets you the 100 feet we're expecting. It also places you at the top of a large, launched lift hill, from where you can do some shenanigans with inversions if you like. At the end of that, you drop down another, shorter twisted spike and stop in the station. A block brake in the middle of the inversion section would make 2 train operation easy and painless.

 

That's my guess. We know Intamin can make loopers. Hypersonic proves you can have a launched vertical lift hill pull over the top. The footer pattern in the sand would be the same as with a normal impulse. They couldn't very well start construction inside the park area while there were patrons.

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Monday, October 29, 2001 9:09 AM
I don't doubt that it is the intamin.  My statement was more in amazement that the task is possible on such unstable ground.
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Monday, October 29, 2001 9:44 AM
All of Moreys Piers coasters in NJ are built on sand, Including the Great White (CCI Woodie), The Sea Serpant (Vekoma Boomerand), and The Great Nor'Easter (Vekoma slc)
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Monday, October 29, 2001 9:53 AM
I say that they are defenitely getting an impulse, because of the fact that Jeff knows what they are getting(supposedly), so why would he allow a news item like this if it was false?

If it is an impulse, you know it's going to be bigger that S:UE, which was an awesome ride. 'm very happy if this is the case. To think what they have done about capacity problems.:) *** This post was edited by scanz on 10/29/2001. ***

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Monday, October 29, 2001 10:15 AM

I hope it's not an Intamin Impulse. In the words of Comatose,"Hypersonic proves you can have a launched vertical lift hill pull over the top. The footer pattern in the sand would be the same as with a normal impulse. They couldn't very well start construction inside the park area while there were patrons." There will be allot more construction in the park once it's close. I'm sticking to my idea that it's a Hypersonic. 

P.S. Guys, stop worrying about the lake and the footers on the beach. I can assure you that Lake Erie, will not brush up against the new attraction.  Remember, that lake is the more swallow of the Great Lakes.

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Monday, October 29, 2001 10:21 AM
ShiveringTim's avatar After examining the site quite extenisvely this weekend, I have a theory that Project2002 won't be a typical Impulse in the sense that it won't be inverted.  The anchor points on the launch/station footers are way too close for an inverted coaster.  I think this will resemble a Schwarzkopf shuttle loop with out the loop and with twisted spikes.
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Monday, October 29, 2001 10:27 AM
I was thinking that too.  But if you look here, there's probably enough room for it to be inverted.

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