Pence criticizes DeSantis over Disney interference

And thanks for outing me as a member of the secret evil society of scientists who teach at liberal arts schools. My next indoctrination session...er...class...is at 12:30.

Things That Did Not Kill Children This Week:
Books
Drag queens
Pronouns
Statues of David

Yeah but it's only Thursday.

No... but youth pastors sure are having one heck of a month.

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https://www.kbtx.com/2023/0...ex-crimes/

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And yet no one is calling for bans on churches.

David Pakman finds himself in a heap of trouble this week over a tweet where he intended to point out (I’m paraphrasing) the irony between “thoughts and prayers” and a shooting at a Christian school. His wording was terrible and he’s taken it down but not before right wing media and politicians accused him of mocking the Christian students who were victims while claiming to be a victim of antisemitism himself.
I find it odd that they were quick to condemn things like that and then also immediately blamed transgenderism as the culprit, but continue to insist that the gun issue (now the largest cause of death of children) is still a “now let’s not be hasty” kind of thing. A “better wait and see” issue. It makes my blood boil.

All of the "arguments" are simply disingenuous. None of it should be taken seriously, and expecting any logical consistency is a recipe for disappointment.

I'm just going to present a data point here...

I attended a weird school where grades 1-2-3 and 3-4-5 were blended in large classrooms. In the upstairs rooms, there was a day or two for the obligatory sex education module, offered with parent permission. So the normally blended class was divided into three groups: 4th and 5th grade boys, 4th and 5th grade girls, and 3rd graders and those 4th and 5th graders who did not receive parental permission. Classes were then given on male anatomy, female anatomy, and wild animal mating habits to each group respectively. Basically at that time (ca. 1978-1980) children 3rd grade and younger were considered generally asexual, and the timing seemed to be just about right at about the 4th grade. That's about age 8 or 9, which, to bring things kind of back on topic, is also approximately 48" tall. So at about the same time as you start thinking about members of the opposite sex, you can also start thinking about sitting next to said persons aboard your favorite amusement ride. Preferably a circular ride with a bench seat, such as a Himalaya.

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Right now there's a lot of discussion about transsexuality and intersexuality, and I think it's interesting to see how the conversation has changed. What was it they said about today, something about Trans Day of Visibility or something like that? I think that's...interesting. I've only met a couple of people I know to be transsexual; that is to say, people I knew "before" and "after". What's interesting to me is that I thought most transsexuals wanted to be INvisible...not to be identified as trans, but rather identified by their preferred genders. He's not 'trans', she's a woman and wants to be identified as such. Or vice versa. I get that there's that awkward time when we're all trying to get used to thinking of 'her' as 'him', and for that person that's probably the hardest time to get through. But I don't really get why the rest of us need to care so much about other people's lives; I see you as you present yourself, and unless I know you well enough to know otherwise, I'm going to refer to you accordingly. Is that so difficult? Oh, and to your face the only pronoun I''m likely to use is "you".

Now is there anyone there I haven't offended yet? 8-) By now you should know I'm not trying to...

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

I think that's in the same vein as "If we don't talk about racism it will go away." At face value, it's not wrong and it's probably the ideal. But the reality is that currently there are enough people who are actively anti-trans that there has to be active pro-trans movement just to keep things in the general vicinity of equality.

If you don't understand the difference between seeking attention and simply wanting to be seen as an equal human being, I don't think you're listening well enough. Also, what Andy said. This naive thing where some people say, "There's racism because we keep talking about it" don't actually seem to be willing to see institutional and unconscious bias creating a gulf of inequality to this day. That's why they call it "woke." And the worst thing is that, especially for my autistic brain, is that you can prove the existence of said bias with numbers, facts, all day.

2 words. Bud Light.

Also see Target.

Mainstream America has spoken.

You all are in the minority opinion and represent the less than 1% of the population.

I am a Gen X guy. It's been found, by and large, we are the least racist generation.

Nothing Jeff or Andy has stated can be backed up by anything factual, which is exactly why an emotional appeal is made. You can't debate anyone's feelings.

Can you explain why you think boycotting Bud Light is the right thing to do? I'm assuming that's what you believe, based on your "Mainstream American has spoken" comment, as in, Mainstream American has spoken and thus we should all honor its wishes.

Conservatives love cancel culture

I wish people would stop calling Republicans conservatives.

Some conservatives will argue this kind of thinking — the thinking that leads a governor like DeSantis to try to cancel a huge corporation like Disney because it spoke out against one of his policies — is not what the Republican Party is all about. To that I say: Prove it.

As a conservative, I will argue that that the Republican Party has become exactly that, with a big ol' heaping of big government liberalism on top. Conservatives who argue that the Republican Party is the party of conservatives, especially since 2016, are misguided.

It’s sad how some people need to come back and rile folks up to feel better about themselves.

Agreed about "conservatives." The fiscal conservatism is the worst GOP lip service ever. The debt during the Trump years has only ballooned faster twice: When Bush started the Iraq war, and Lincoln fought the Civil War. And when you're behind a tax cut has the same effect as increased spending.

extremecoasterdad:

You all are in the minority opinion and represent the less than 1% of the population.

I'm not sure why I bother, but...

• The majority of Americans support abortion rights.
• 71% of Americans support same-sex marriage.
• 64% of Americans believe racism toward Black people is widespread.
• Satisfaction with American healthcare has been in decline for years.
• More than 80% of Americans object to book bans.

Tell me more about majorities.

Also, anyone drinking Bud Light already loses any argument about what is acceptable in society.

Vater:

Conservatives who argue that the Republican Party is the party of conservatives, especially since 2016, are misguided.

GOP left conservatism long before that. At the end of the day, limited government doesn't bring power/money to politicians, and with extremely few exceptions (approaching none), power/money are all politicians are about. Making it less likely, there are far fewer people who actually believe in limited government. Increasingly its the case that the "limited government" crowd just wants government to do less of the things they don't like government doing and are totally fine with big government doing that which they like. Almost $32 trillion later, here we are.

Paying lip service to limited government is still good for some votes though. And in the end, candidates don't run in vacuums; they run against other candidates. Lesser of evils. Though in the end, we still get evil.

And I thought that Hillary v Trump was as bad an election as we could have. Biden v Trump, part deux, will be worse.

extremecoasterdad:

Mainstream America has spoken.

"Mainstream America" have been speaking about mass produced beer for years. InBev's stock price is just 2 points down YTD. It was more than double the current price 5 years ago. Bud Light has also been marketing to the LGBTQ crowd for years but the snowflakes only just now noticed.

extremecoasterdad:
You all are in the minority opinion and represent the less than 1% of the population.

Ha ha. Wow. I never thought I would make it into the 1%.

Jeff:

Also, anyone drinking Bud Light already loses any argument about what is acceptable in society.

I've been boycotting Budweiser products for all of my 26 years of being drinking legal because they suck. Nothing to do with "duh gayz/tranz".