Pence criticizes DeSantis over Disney interference

That seems like the obvious thing. On years where I've had large bonuses or vested RSU's, I was done with SS tax by September. That's thousands I was no longer on the hook for.

Jeff:

People (including the governor, apparently) don't seem to understand how Disney and Reedy Creek works. DeSantis keeps saying stupid things like "Disney has to pay their fair share of taxes,

You live there and I don't, so I assume (perhaps wrongly) that you get a somewhat more nuanced discussion of DeSantis. That said, I've always felt that with DeSantis, everything he says is very calculated and he knows what he's saying is nonsense, but that he also knows that the folks he's trying to engage won't bother to fact check it so he wins is talking points. At this point, he could walk back the takeover of Reedy Creek quietly and most of his voters would never know. They'd just remember that he stuck it to "woke" Disney and cheer him on. Do you see (or hear) people talking about it differently there?

Yes, everything you said is true. People in my circles, however, don't buy his nonsense. Obviously many people do, or know he's full of it and don't care.

One potential way out (or at least, part of the way out) would be to raise the cap on income subject to social security taxes.

There are a large number of potential ways to address the solvency issues. And without question, neither benefit cuts nor tax increases need to be across the board. Raising retirement age to 67 was a benefit cut that wasn't across the board. But people impacted by it were something like 23 and under when it was enacted and likely weren't thinking that far ahead. Taxing benefits for certain people is another way of effectively reducing benefits.

Same is true of tax increases. There are a number of them that have been proposed over the years (most of which have not been across the board).

Its just that none of them have been enacted. And the longer you wait (the boomers are already retiring in mass so no changes can be made to them and there are limits to how close people are to retirement before you can make changes that affect them -- Pence in the CNBC interview said 25 years out), the more drastic the changes need to be to address the issues.

Social security is an easier fix because its largely actuarial. Medicare is an actuarial issue as well but adds into it the ever increasing costs of healthcare. But even mention doing anything to either program and everyone in DC runs for the hills. Eventually that won't be an option (not to mention people in the hills will be complaining about their checks being cut by 20% at that point).

I've always felt that with DeSantis, everything he says is very calculated and he knows what he's saying is nonsense, but that he also knows that the folks he's trying to engage won't bother to fact check it so he wins is talking points.

I apply this to every politician. Maybe I am cynical but I have found it to be true much more often than not.

I understand wanting to come to coasterbuzz to try to get away from political discussions. However, when a governor picks a fight with one of the largest amusement parks in the world, that discussion becomes relevant.

It's also possible to avoid opening a thread that you don't want to read. You aren't Alex DeLarge in Clockwork Orange.

He pretty much only posts in political threads then disappears when anyone tries to engage him.

He must be a politician.

Who is triggered? LOL.

If I need to know your stance on anything, all I need to do is turn on CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC or any other legacy media outlet. You have not one actual opinion of your own. You're nothing more than a parrot of the media.

Just a little tidbit, but all of those aforementioned legacy media outlets (also including FOX) are exactly on par with the CCP media whose ONLY job is propaganda.

Someone's jealous I wrecked their ridiculous narrative about the "Don't say gay bill"

I lean way more libertarian, so spare me of the whole "must be a conservative" nonsense as well.

No libertarian is for government getting people's pants, education, and definitely not business.

Hahahahaha... "the media" cabal is the best. I'm the media too. You'll never find our secret meetings!

Not all media come up with the ridiculousness. Some just parrot the major media networks. Hence, where you come in

Riiiiight, and who tells you to say that?

There are libertarians and then there are people who fly a don’t tread on me flag next to their trump flag.

Republicans moved away from the limited government approach when they realized there aren't enough people truly interested in limited government (beyond paying lip service to it) to win elections (and both parties are all about that over any particular principles/policies). And its increasingly the case there are fewer people who are pro business. Typically politicians react more than they do drive.

Easy one. Do you think the smaller local tv stations actually investigate the major networks' reporting or do you think they just report what has already been reported?

The answer is obviously #2. No one at the local level is taking time to investigate the major media networks to ensure their reporting is accurate.

"When the debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser."

Local TV generally uses newspapers as the genesis for local stories. They don't report on national news because they have a local newsroom. Your local reporter isn't going to fly to Washington to track down a senator or New York to corner a corporate executive. That doesn't even make sense.

I think you lack critical thinking. What exactly do you think the national media is getting wrong? And which "national media?" If you're going to make broad generalizations, name names.

NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, WaPo, NYT, the list goes on and on.

They've been wrong on a great many things.

I point you right back to the "don't say gay" bill that you were clearly wrong about and was posted for your enjoyment. This was reported by every major national media outlet and also on a local level. Or would you like to discuss the Jussie Smollet story? Or the lab leak theory on Covid-19? Or the thousands of hours of people who were escorted by the police on January 6th?

The only one lacking critical thinking is the individual that insists they must be correct when they've been proven wrong many, many times.

This is so very reminiscent of the schoolyard.

"I'm rubber and you're glue. What you say bounces off me and sticks to you."

The New York Times is wrong? About what? I don't watch TV, so you'll have to be more specific. When they do get something wrong, they own it and say they got it wrong though. I'm all ears. Like any bona fide news organization, they report observable facts.

What was I wrong about for Don't Say Gay? What was the NYT wrong about it?

You're just saying things, you're not providing any evidence. Are you going to tell me next that I have "Woke Mind Virus?"