Now Six Flags "hates poor people?"

https://www.thecogentcolumn...ys-you-are

dragonoffrost:

If you were thinking "they are who we thought they are" that was the late Dennis Green.

Nope, this one:

https://www.goodreads.com/q...ys-you-are

(I can't find a video of him saying it, but there are a lot of videos of people quoting him.)

I believe it was originally on Pat McAfee's show so that's why I didn't hear it as much as the one I thought you meant.

An interview with Bill asking him about some of his quotes.

Worlds of Fun Gold Pass. Get all 40 parks for $89!!

https://cf-wf.store.cffunwf...1745370547

Not just all parks for $89. But all parks for $89 for all of 2026 and the remainder of 2025. Yeah, that should be like $350-500 based on the inflation calcs I did a wekk or whatever ago.

TheMillenniumRider:

Yeah, that should be like $350-500 based on the inflation calcs I did a wekk or whatever ago.

But isn't this lack of corporate greed a good thing?

There's a fine line between greed and leaving money on the table. In fact, that line is a separator, there's nothing that falls into the "just right" area. Companies either don't price their **** high enough because they're idiots or they gouge everyone because they're evil.

I would expect season pass numbers to skyrocket

Why? For most people the value proposition is exactly the same as it was last year.

I hope everyone recognizes this season pass “strategy” is exactly the same strategy under the Burke/Story leadership years that sank legacy Six Flags into bankruptcy. The strategy at the time was to flood the parks with as many customers as possible hoping and praying that sales of food, beverages, merchandise, and games would make up the gate/parking right-off. It’s really disappointing to see leadership and board members, all of whom are supposedly “business experts,” go down this road again.

Hey the country chose to repeat after only 4 years, waiting 20 makes these business men look like geniuses.

Were all-season dining, drink, and skip-the-line passes available at Six Flags parks prior to their bankruptcy? If not, I'm not so concerned about the current pricing strategy, as the parks now have more diverse offerings. I imagine the idea is they can increase attendance/sales by offering different levels of service at different price points. Those who can't afford meal, drink, and/or FOL perks can still visit the parks, but those who can afford these add-ons have the option of purchasing them. Presumably, that option wasn't available in the past (I don't know), so the parks only attracted a certain class of customer.

If these options were available and they're offering the exact same product, I'm not sure why they would expect a different outcome.

$150 for a Season Dining plan, when you get 2 meals means you are charging $75 a meal for an entire year, how many times do you think it takes to cost the chain? I’m guessing it’s 15-25 days. I suspect most purchasers go that amount of times.

The lack of corporate greed is a great thing, but when you are undervaluing your product to the detriment of the company, raising prices isn’t a bad thing.

They must know something us armchair quarterback’s don’t. Or they are just going at it like Eddie Lampert.

Lord Gonchar:

But isn't this lack of corporate greed a good thing?

I know you are being facetious, but I'd still like to throw out this rhetorical question too: Is Dollywood being greedy by charging more than double ($254) for a single-park Gold Pass compared to the cost of access to 40 Six Flags parks?

Consumers recognize when A) a price point is generally aligned with the perceived value and B) pricing is moderately stable from year to year. Folks get mad at Disney because pricing has risen substantially, and folks get mad at Six because the experience is getting worse. Both are cited as examples of corporate greed, but I think this is more about shrinking and growing demand in the industry. More people want Cars Lands and Harry Potter Lands, and less want steel roller coasters loosely color-coordinated with a comic book villain.

Touchdown:

I’m guessing it’s 15-25 days. I suspect most purchasers go that amount of times.

Do you think most passholders go to the park at least 15-25 times in a season?

I consider ourselves Cedar Point enthusiasts. We maxed out at 10 visits this year. And we're teaching nerds with most of the summer off. Less than 2 hours from the park.

I can certainly see locals visiting more.

There's just not time to go more. Kids involved in things, priorities, etc. Other things to do beyond Cedar Point.

Honestly I'm not sure I even have an interest to go more than that.

Since I bought my 2025 pass:

-3 days at CP in Sept

-1 day at KBF in October

-1 day at KBF in December

-3 days at CP in June

-2 days at KI in June

-1 day at CW

7 more days planned the rest of the year. This was a lower year for me.

Married with children?