News: Kingda Ka

I've heard one improvement to Kingda Ka over the rest of the rockets will be that the cable will be made of Titanium instead of steel. For those who don't know, Titanium is stronger and lighter than steel.

Hopefully that will extend the life of the cable greatly, becuase that has seemed to be a constant problem with Top Thrill Dragster.

That wouldn't make sense. The difference in cost isn't justified considering how quickly you can replace a cable.

I have to say I think that bunny hill will be unbelievable with the speeds of this ride...One complaint I always had about TTD was the fact that you hit 120, and then go up, losing speed, then hit 120 for a mere couple seconds before hitting the brakes...I think with Kinda Ka maintaining speed for that amount of time over the bunny hill will make this ride that much better, and allow you to enjoy the top speeds it hits. But if the airtime is anything like MF's, I'm gonna be totally dissapointed. MF=Most over-rated airtime on a coaster.

Why wouldn't CP upgrade to Titanium as well then? Titanium has been around for years, I'm sure a titanium cable isn't anything new...maybe they just didn't think it was neccesary on the earlier rocket coasters...perhaps they will replace the cables in the offseason.

Don't diss my favorite ride. On MF the hill before the tunnel gives as much airtime as anycoaster I have been on including Superman in Agawam.

I doubt TTD hits 120 after the 400 foot drop that's probably for advertising. Remember that bunny hill is I believe 120 so odd feet tall on KA! *** Edited 10/4/2004 1:15:58 AM UTC by GIGAFORCE01***

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vacoasterfreak said:
Big D said that Storm Runner ran flawlessly this season....and thats a pile of CRAP, lol. i was at Hershey back in June, and it was down ALL DAY. and ive talked to many others who experienced the same thing.....granted it wasnt as down as much as TTD, but it still had quite a bit of downtime this year.....so dont go presenting an arguement without facts, Big D....

and for the record, RideMan (Dave) blows me away, i wish i had that much ride knowledge, lol!! it was fun sharing Maggie 1-3 with you at Cmania ERT dave!!

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I'll say what SFGADV lover said... It must have been a bad day. Any ride on its opening year has those. I been there many times this season and so have alot of people I know. It was only down once for me for a few hours after some trouble with the sled. But for the most part its been running great.

BTW, I think part of the launch redesign is that the cable does not get dragged down into the hydraulics building. There are no guide wheels pulling the cable down. The track slopes up and the cable goes straight into the motor. Less bending and stress to the cable, Possibly longer lifespan.

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GIGAFORCE01 said:

Theming anticipation adv. TTD sound affects unbeatable

Reliability adv. TTD around more. working well last year.

Anyone think differently?

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For theming, we don't know what Ka will bring, so I don't think it's fair to compare these 2.

I disagree about reliability. Second generation rides are usually much more reliable than prototype rides. In other words, they've learned from many mistakes on TTD and they will apply those lessons learned to Ka. I don't see how TTD could possibly get the advantage on this one.

GigaForce:
Sorry, wasn't trying to sound rude or be a tool, I just was trying to state that it was one third larger before someone came and yelled @ you for making a mistake. I didn't know if it was just a mistake/typo, or if you didn't realize what you posted. Didn't mean to come off rude:).

Big D:
Again, were you to be paying attention, you'd know that my sig has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH KINGDA KA, as I've already stated numerous times. Its a freakin reference to the Ring.

Again, you won't back down. You never said anything about "another element", you specifically stated there would be an overbank. You were wrong. Stop trying to justify your point. Incase you haven't figured it out yet without me simply spelling it out like I'm about to do, I knew what was coming to Great Adventure way before the announcement. I tried to tell you you were wrong, but you argued with someone who did know what they were talking about (well, a few of the people that knew, actually), and you were wrong. Yet you still presist.

And I'm glad I annoy you, thats my goal. I guess in this instance, it takes one to know one.

P.S., thanks Brett, I knew you'd have my back;).

Im sure this ride would have coaster sounds like TTD and SR do. Maybe a big tiger roar and while your going to the launch track they would play african drum beats that would be played slow enough to gain anticipation. Im srue they would do something, and I think they would make sure this ride is reliable. If it isn't reliable I doubt it would be SF's fault. Every coaster there is reliable besdides the Chiller and their mechanical problems. S:UF sometimes have its days but they leave it open.

The height and speed of a coaster are not the only factors when it comes to the quality of airtime. The design of the bunny hill has to be very precise. If height and speed were the only factors, then most of the great airtime woodies out there would not be what they are.

lol...Gigaforce, you must have quite a sensitivity, ive never gotten decent air on MF, but hey, to each his own....i guess it "does it" for others, and not for some...

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GIGAFORCE01 said:

On MF the hill before the tunnel gives as much airtime as...Superman in Agawam.

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LOL! :)

...oh wait, your were serious?

There's a hill on the causeway that delivers more air than MF. Besides the first drop, I can't really even force myself to think MF is a better ride/has more airtime than SROS-NE. Even SROS's first drop is sweet with the tunnel and all. Nevertheless, MF is still a fantastic coaster and one I could ride over and over again.

+Danny

Hill on the causeway that delivers more ejector air you mean? Millennium is floater air heaven, but maybe you're just too much of a stupid-head to realize that ;)

(kidding - well sort of, I can't understand how anyone can say there's no airtime on MF - maybe just not their preferred type of air)

To contribute something on topic - anyone think they'll get the "loose ahteekls" lady from Volcano TBC to do the pre-launch announcement? I think I'd end up falling out of the car laughing if they did ... I love that lady! *** Edited 10/4/2004 6:16:13 PM UTC by Impulse-ive***

I love that airtime hill on the causeway.

MF has great floater air. KK will have somthing like MF's but it will last alot longer from the looks of it.

As for the guy who said the rides that are down at gadv aren't SF's fault. Uhh yea they are, For the most part. The thing with chiller is probably split 50/50 with premier and SF. SF for not doing more to get it up and premier for building a faulty launch.

As for S:UF. Its ALL SF, There is NO excuse that they can't get a B&M running. Especially on its 2nd year. S:UF ran very bad this year, They would run one train and it would break down if they would add the 2nd one.

oh and Tekno, You gotta let things go dude. You're just making yourself look like an ass.

This doesn't make any sense to me. No one else finds the 100 foot hill the one leaving the island on MF to have extreme ejection airtime. I am not a fan of floating airtime ,but ejection airtime.

The way I see it Superman does deliver a lot more ejection airtime than MF( many hills) But not one on superman has more extreme ejection airtime as the 100 foot hill on MF.

And yes I have rode them both in the back.

Why do I prefer MF then. Well that's b/c I am also a fan of speed, intensity and anticipation.

Tekno Scorpion you made me feel bad. I was just trying to get the point across that I know what I am talking about. *** Edited 10/4/2004 7:50:02 PM UTC by GIGAFORCE01***

Brett, I never said Millennium Force didn't have any airtime. It definitely has some floats, but it's definitely not a butt-slappin', lap bar makin' out good time like Phantom or SROS. I probably prefer the ejector air, but the MF floats aren't any better than Gemini or Blue Streak. I like MF more than those two though for the first drop, speed, and I think the bunny hop before the last overbanked is really fun.

You're a doodoo butt! ;)

+Danny

I'm with Danny on this one.

The last word that comes to my head when I think of MF is airtime. I wouldn't call a single moment of air on MF "ejector air" - and even if you tried to squeeze it in under that category, it'd pale in comparison to S:ROS, PR or even Magnum.

Don't get me wrong, MF is certainly a top ten ride and it does have air, but nothing even close to the aforementioned coasters in terms of 'ejector air'

Speed is what MF is all about. I'd even give you intensity. But airtime?

To me the #1 reason MF is rated the highest in the country is not b/c of popularity but b/c it delivers the best of 2 worlds.

Why do most people run to TTD b/c oh my gosh I am scared must conquer my fears. Ever watch the reactions of people after TTD that's b/c wow I survived. That memory can last forever.

On rides like Superman people might not be all that afraid but the ride is just so awesome. All the elements and so on.

That's why MF is the best to the GP it has the best of the two worlds.

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That's why MF is the best to the GP...

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And you're basing that on?

Best to the GP? I highly doubt even 5% of this GP that has been on at least one of the coasters has been on the other one as well. Besides the fact of my figure that means absolutely nothing, it was voted #1 by people voting in the Amusement Today poll, which I'm told consists of mainly "coaster/park enthusiasts". People love both coasters and you're definitely allowed to like MF or TTD more than SROS.

+Danny