New Kings Island coaster?

Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:39 PM
Thabto's avatar

This image has been circulating on social media which is supposedly a GCI wood coaster for Kings Island in 2017.


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Thursday, June 9, 2016 7:25 PM

That looks like a non looping coaster in an out and back style, KI has the racer and diamondback already, unless this is a giga I cant see why the park needs a ride like this (and with MF in the same market it just seems weird).

I was really hoping they were going to upgrade boo blasters next. Not that I will complain about any new coaster.


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Thursday, June 9, 2016 9:25 PM

He says... As he complains about this new coaster... That isn't even yet a new coaster...

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Thursday, June 9, 2016 10:19 PM
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Thursday, June 9, 2016 11:11 PM

Someone on another site has put this up next to a Prowler blueprint and they are quite similar. I'm all for a new GCI woodie in the forest.

But I'm still suprised they aren't going in a more family friendly angle.


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Thursday, June 9, 2016 11:12 PM
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I overlapped the plans on top of a satellite image of the park, adjusted the size of the coaster's station to match the size of The Beast's station, and tried to fit it together like a puzzle. I can't get it to work, even when I slightly adjust the size of the coaster plans. I could be turning it in the wrong direction though. I think the turnaround is in the infield of the train turnaround near the water park, although I have tried other orientations, and any way I turn it works just as poorly.

But since I can't get it to fit perfectly, I may be wrong about that. The size works, but the shape doesn't fit with the other attractions.

Judging by the size of the station in the plans, it's not going to be a small coaster. Probably way over 100.

Did I read that there were changes done to the picnic grove a while back? I can't find that info now. I ma have dreamed it.


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Friday, June 10, 2016 12:16 AM
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I know it's really hard to put a scale to a blueprint with nothing around to scale it to, but it doesn't appear to be all that big, nor travel an exceptional distance. Who's to say that this isn't a more "family friendly" attraction? Very little can be discerned from this... speed, height. angles of drops, etc.

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Friday, June 10, 2016 11:52 AM
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LostKause said:

I overlapped the plans on top of a satellite image of the park, adjusted the size of the coaster's station to match the size of The Beast's station, and tried to fit it together like a puzzle. I can't get it to work...

From Screamscape:


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Friday, June 10, 2016 12:28 PM
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The problem with that is it takes the original drawing out of context. The original drawing is really for whatever goes on in the little gray box, the centerline diagram intended to show where it goes. Seems kind of strange to have detailed work for something in the middle of the woods.


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Friday, June 10, 2016 1:18 PM

The "area of work" could be for foundations. If it is adjacent to the water like the picture shows there would likely need to be special detailing there (and the next drawing in the set may be the area of work on the other side of the lake...)


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Friday, June 10, 2016 1:34 PM
James Whitmore's avatar

Perhaps a bridge across the lake, a la Ravine Flyer II.


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Friday, June 10, 2016 2:20 PM
LostKause's avatar

I was trying to somehow use the area now occupied by the Funnel Cake stand and the soon-to-be removed log flume. I'll post it here, but I am embarrassed as to it not fitting correctly. It's just an idea of what could be. I know it's probably wrong.


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Friday, June 10, 2016 2:42 PM
Lord Gonchar's avatar

I like your placement better.


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Friday, June 10, 2016 4:11 PM
LostKause's avatar

Thanks.

Let me interpret the leaked layout so that people who don't know what they are looking at have an idea of what's going on here.

There is a station. In my pic, it can be see running parallel to the walkway. Out of the station, the track travels down the page, first turning to the right and then to the left, before the lift hill. At the top of the lift, closest to White Water Canyon, it drops to the left, with the lowest point of the drop near the water. It then climbs and turns left over or under (probably over) the lift hill. It then makes it's way to the turnaround near Soak City entrance. It could travel under the walkway that takes people over the train tracks going out, and over the walkway coming back. Then it makes its way back to the station. A break run can be seen before the station, or that may be a transfer track.

That layout would mean that the picnic grove would need altered or removed. It would also mean that an access road near White Water Canyon would have to be removed or altered. It fits though.

I figured out the sizing by comparing the size of the station in the plans to the satellite images of The Beast and Diamondback stations.

Please don't consider this to be correct though. Even though I tried to make it work, I'm not so confidant that this is correct.

Last edited by LostKause, Friday, June 10, 2016 4:12 PM
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Saturday, June 11, 2016 5:28 PM

LostKause said:

I was trying to somehow use the area now occupied by the Funnel Cake stand and the soon-to-be removed log flume. I'll post it here, but I am embarrassed as to it not fitting correctly. It's just an idea of what could be. I know it's probably wrong.

The problem with that placement is that while it aligns with the flags seen around the "fort" in the train loop, it annihilates the flume, interferes with the rapids ride station area, and would have to make an awkward jump across the picnic grove.


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Saturday, June 11, 2016 8:50 PM

If the flume were to go away I'd be kind of sad. Even though it had most of its pieces parts replaced a while back, I believe it's the second oldest operating log ride in existence, like Arrow flume #4. I rode it at Coney Island, where it just kind of scooted across the grass. The move to KI benefited the ride with much better scenery.

Other than that, our Travis' placement works for me. The jump over the picnic area really only hits the entrance which could be rerouted somehow. Or, the coaster could serve as the picnic area's own little "gatekeeper"...

This ride seems small to me, but as LK points out the actual scale isn't very apparent. I haven't been to WoF in years, and maybe this has been pointed out, but isn't it awfully similar (in concept, anyway) to Prowler? I wonder how this ride lays over an image of that one?

Edit to add another thought:
And for that matter, why there? With all the land KI had at its disposal, you'd think there'd be a better spot. (I'm looking at you, dinosaurs.)

Last edited by RCMAC, Saturday, June 11, 2016 9:03 PM
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Saturday, June 11, 2016 9:36 PM
LostKause's avatar

RCMAC, I looked at Prowler via Google Maps, and it has some similarities, but not nearly identical at all.

There is a lot of talk about the flume leaving. I believe the rumors. It makes sense. Log flume rides are fewer and fewer each year, sadly.

I recall hearing or reading about either changes coming to the picnic grove or already done to the picnic grove, along with a question about it being done to make way for a new coaster. This was last fall, if I recall correctly. I can't remember if I dreamed it or if it really happened though. LOL

I don't think the coaster will be "Jr." sized. If it were, the track in the layout would be fatter, in my opinion. Although, the park could use a mid-sized coaster added to it's lineup.

I think the ride should have a devil theme, and be called "664 - Neighbor of the Beast." :D

---Edited: to make my joke actually somewhat funny. Thanks, Vater.---

Last edited by LostKause, Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:24 PM
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Saturday, June 11, 2016 9:55 PM
bjames's avatar

Judging by the width of the track in the blueprint, and if it is a wooden coaster (it looks like it), it doesn't look like a particularly large or long one. It seems like it'll be along the lines of Prowler or Goldrusher or that one at valleyfair I can't think of the name of, smallish but packing a wallop. The screamscape overlay seems more realistic to me, Lost's plan has it going over too many buildings in the picnic area. I'm interested to follow this project. It does seem like an odd move as the park has its fair share of wooden roller coasters as it is. Still, I can't believe this will be the park's 15th coaster! I remember when Cedar Point was the world record holder when it had only 14 coasters.


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Sunday, June 12, 2016 1:35 AM
Tommytheduck's avatar

That log flume is really one of the most fun LF rides we've ever been on. Though it's small, it travels really fast and seems more "wild" than most others. It would be a shame to see it leave.

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Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:37 AM
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LostKause said:

I think the ride should have a devil theme, and be called "555 - Neighbor of the Beast." :D

I think that would be 664 or 668.

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