Kings Island 2020

Saturday, August 17, 2019 4:28 PM

Banshee’s back row outside left seat also rattled the absolute hell out of my brain when I rode it and I have high rough coaster tolerance. I was worried I was going to get a brain bleed. Totally bizarre for a B&M Invert imo.

Saturday, August 17, 2019 4:44 PM

I love KI but I do have to question if it’s their maintenance. Intimidator at Carowinds is only a year younger but I recall it was smooth as glass when I rode it last year.

Saturday, August 17, 2019 10:08 PM

I'll agree there is something a bit off about the way Diamondback rides. I cannot put my finger on what it is. When I hit it earlier this year, I got off thinking it was near or at the bottom of B&Ms of its type. This ride should be great...why does it kinda suck?

I would write it off as having a bad day but I can't remember anything positive from initally riding it back in 2014 either. I think the wonderland and carowinds versions are much better. (Along with just about every other B&M hyper speed I've been on)

Last edited by Kstr 737, Saturday, August 17, 2019 10:12 PM
Saturday, August 17, 2019 10:28 PM

As someone who has Dorney as my home park, I’ll I can do is laugh at the people complaining about some aspect of their new B&M giga coaster. Oh my!

Saturday, August 17, 2019 11:07 PM

Has anybody ridden Dominator at Kings Dominion lately? That coaster has one of the best paced layouts of any inversion coaster, but it vibrates so badly it’s not even rideable anymore. The half after the brake run with the corskscrews is really bad.

Is it lack of wheel maintenance or is the track the issue? B&Ms don’t last forever as proven by both coasters at Islands of Adventure.

Sunday, August 18, 2019 11:02 AM

I have ridden Inimidator at Carowinds in 2015 and 2016. The day I was there in 2015, I was quite disappointed at the lack of airtime on the ride. In 2016, it was running much better than 2015. As far as Diamondback goes, I find that the ride can be a bit lackluster in the morning. By evening, when its had a chance to warm up, the first half of the ride is about as great as any hypercoaster can be. On most any day, I find it starts running out of steam at the hill before the mid-coarse.

Last edited by 0g, Sunday, August 18, 2019 11:03 AM
Sunday, August 18, 2019 11:18 AM

My take on Orion is a simple one (sorta) - Im already planning on visiting Kings Island for Gay Pride Night 2020 and looking forward to experiencing Orion. The layout intrigues me. Im not here to bash or disparage something that isnt even open yet. Ill save my loathing for dipstick in the White House, but I digress. Im just more curious as to why KI didnt try to hit the records? Thats all. No animosity here about what they should have done or didnt do. I was just wondering ?? Again, I look forward to my trip next September and Im sure the ride will be worth the wait. Besides, as a friend of mine pointed out, there shouldnt be any complaints since his home park is Valleyfair. Nuff said =)

Are you MAN ENOUGH to ride this ride ?
Sunday, August 18, 2019 11:49 AM

Cedar Fair probably did not want to upstage Millennium. However, a larger coaster would also have a larger cost. CF has spent a lot of money lately. It is nice that KI has got a GIGA. Look at the glass as half full.

Sunday, August 18, 2019 11:53 AM
Jeff's avatar

What does that even mean? Fury is already taller than Millennium Force, and generally rated higher. Also, "spent a lot of money?" That's what parks do, on a budget, in relation to their overall income and cash flow. The board doesn't sit around and say, "Well, it feels like we spent a lot of money. What do you think Richard? Any change in the couch cushions?"

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Sunday, August 18, 2019 12:05 PM
HeyIsntThatRob?'s avatar

I keep hearing the 'not wanting to upstage Cedar Point' argument and I don't agree with that at all.

This looks to me like investing in a giga at the lowest possible cost. Why go all out when past additions haven't moved the needle as far as park attendance goes? It's a very mature park that was most likely due for a cap ex project to replace Firehawk.

Sunday, August 18, 2019 12:35 PM
TheAcrophobicEnthusiast's avatar

Screw the height argument. Who cares?

Looks like a kick ass ride but it just seems to waste its speed by ending too soon. The real gripe should be ride time and number of elements. A park with the prestige of KI does deserve better but you really can't complain about a giga...just critique.

The best of all the jokers is clearly Mark Hamill.

Sunday, August 18, 2019 2:17 PM

Cedar Fair "upstaged" Millennium Force when they built Magnum. Oh, wait... ;)

To being an "us" for once - instead of a "them".

Sunday, August 18, 2019 2:35 PM
Jeff's avatar

I'm amused by all of the people who are super critical but say they can't complain. I don't think they understand the meaning of words.

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Sunday, August 18, 2019 2:53 PM

That’s exactly it. $ has something to do with the plain layout. While it’s a chunk of change, it is a reduced cost Giga compared to the others except KD

Their real “economy” Giga is at Kings Dominion. Low to the ground is cheaper to build. At least KI is getting something better than that.

Last edited by super7*, Sunday, August 18, 2019 2:53 PM
Sunday, August 18, 2019 3:02 PM
Jeff's avatar

$30 million is reduced cost? Compared to what? 🤷‍♂️

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Sunday, August 18, 2019 3:21 PM
Dale K's avatar

So this coaster is not tall enough, too short, and now cheap? Hell, just cancel the whole project.

I hope Kings Island plays the band Rage Against The Machine in the waiting line, I know not family friendly but fitting for this coaster that no one has ridden yet.

Sunday, August 18, 2019 4:11 PM

The giga style (both intamin and B&M) is my absolute favorite style of roller coaster. I'm excited to ride Orion next year.

tall and fast but not much upside down

Sunday, August 18, 2019 6:15 PM
Tommytheduck's avatar

Now I don't know the exact lay of the land, etc, but has anyone considered that Orion's height was dictated by the lay of the land and the amount of space they had to cram it into? Perhaps that's all they had to work with. Perhaps another 13 feet of height meant bulldozing the arcade... or something.

FFS people, the POV looks amazing. But by all means, keep complaining about the post MCBR sections of Gatekeeper, Yukon, etc. After all, they are the longest of their kind.

Sunday, August 18, 2019 9:01 PM
eightdotthree's avatar

I remember seeing the POV video for Millennium Force and thinking that it looked awful. Then I rode it and fell in love. I still love it almost 20 freaking years later.

Orion looks sweet.

Sunday, August 18, 2019 9:37 PM
HeyIsntThatRob?'s avatar

super7* said:

Their real “economy” Giga is at Kings Dominion. Low to the ground is cheaper to build. At least KI is getting something better than that.

It was economy before all the alterations done during and after its first season. :-D

It should also be noted the Orion's announcement is another reminder Cedar Fair is still done with Intamin.

Last edited by HeyIsntThatRob?, Sunday, August 18, 2019 9:38 PM

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