Kingda Ka------broken again!

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crazy horse said:
Get used to it.

Ttd is almost a zerox of this ride. Look whats still happening to it after all this time. You think there would be a lemon clouse in the contract with Intimin.

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Wouldn't Kingda Ka be the xerox since TTD came first?

And I think you meant lemon clause. ;)

Well I hope you got your front of the line pass, so you don't have to wait the next time you go.

Regardless what the issues are, they are both breaking down on an everyday basis. look whats happining to kingda ka, same thing thats happining to dragster. BROKEN DOWN. Both rides being almost identical, I can ASSUME that they are having some of the same problems. Hell, six flags even tried to get help from the cedarpoint maint staff.

And how do you know that they are not having problems with kingda ka's launch system? Are you some kind of expert? Do you work in six flags maint dept?

You have to remember that this is a new type of ride, and that there are going to be problems with the ride. But after being open now for over 2 years and STILL having problems, I would say that this design has many flaws in it. If Intimin came up with a fix for all the problems, why is dragster down as much as it is?

I am jack, what I ment was the "lemon clause. *** Edited 5/28/2005 5:07:00 PM UTC by crazy horse***

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PhantomTails said:
This is the third Rocket Coaster Intamin has delivered since Dragster.

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Actually it's the 4th
Kanonen
Rita
Storm Runner
and of course kingda ka

I would be interested in hearing how reliably these other coasters run. I've not heard much about their reliability. Is it the hydraulic launch that is flawed, or is a 120+mph launch simply too much for the system.

*Edit to fix links *** Edited 5/28/2005 6:10:25 PM UTC by Danimal***

^ I think the problem is in the scale of the two giant rides. The other ones operate with a few problems, but not anywhere close to the giants.

The scary thing is that I remember the president of Intamin saying that the launch system could reach the 200mph mark on coasters in the future. I sincerely hope that no park is dumb enough to try this 200 mph launch, as the 120-130 mph ones don't even work correctly.

All I can tell you is that the majority of Ka's problems are software related. And this isn't a big surprise since Intamin develops their own ride systems. It has also had various sensor issues and unfortunately, issues with the switch track.

The launch system, motor, cable, trains and sled have all had minimal issues and are almost never the cause of these interuptions.

It also has had less than ideal weather (aside from today :) ) to launch in. I thought they were actually doing a good job keeping it running in the cold, damp overcast, windy days we have been having.

I'm VERY curious to see how they do this weekend though. The weather is perfect (although the wind is still strong) and its a holiday weekend. Good luck to those that braved the park!

They are both the same, KK is the xerox. Maybe the parks will learn the lesson now, don't buy a rocket until the kinks are perfected.

Samething by TTD at CP

LOL!!!!!

Alec

I know I'm all about the perfect kinks...

;)

I was there 27th and in what may have been one of the warmer days the park has been opened (80 and sunshine) and the ride seemed to close for at least 30 min. The problem that migrated to the crowd was overheating issue and they wanted to be cautious about it. Pnuematic line overheat?

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crazy horse said:

The height differance is only by a few feet, and the bunny hop adds no differance to how both rides operate.

If there were "several" modifications to the design, then why is it having problemes just as dragster is?

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"Height difference is only by a few feet"? No. You could use that phrase to describe Steel Dragon 2000's 318-foot hill to Millennium Force's 310-foot one, but Kingda Ka is 36-feet taller than Top Thrill Dragster (that's nearly 4 stories taller). And to say that the modifactions to Ka's system aren't fail-proof is ridiculous. If Dragster is still having problems, what makes you think a slightly improved system on a 40-foot taller monster Rocket will do better? I'm pretty sure the mechanism that fuels the hydraulic system is larger, if not the same size as the one on Dragster. Add that fact to the need to make a train climb an additional 36 feet with a launch track of approximately the same length (train has to reach a higher velocity in the same amount of track space as Dragster)...

I was at CP May 23-25 and Dragster did not go down at all, except for a little on Tuseday due to weather. The ride is doing extremely well now, and rarely is breaking down from my experience. I even saw Dragster hit 127mph on the radar during test runs on wednesday. I don't know why people are saying it is still going down constantly..it is not. It will be interesting to see how Kingda Ka works out...seeing the troubles that a park like CP had with superior mechanics and ride staff.

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Raging_Bull said:
...seeing the troubles that a park like CP had with superior mechanics and ride staff.

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LOL. So you know all the SF mechanics and how much skill and experience they have?

Anyway, as somebody else said, almost every problem I have seen so far has been computer/sensor related. It seems most of the time the system does not recognize the trains for whatever reason and then the computer forces the ride into E-stop. Either that or a switch track malfunction which apparently also puts the ride into E-stop. I've also heard that a couple of the trains have had problems engaging with the sled at the launch.

I'm not saying there are no major problems (over heating etc.) but every problem I've seen seems to be sensor/computer related.

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Homey G. said:

Don't listen to S2K. I think this is pertinent information to anyone who's planning a trip up there. I think we need to know EVERYTIME it goes down. South Carolina is too far away to plan a trip that could be troublesome. Thanks for your info.

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That's absurd. The park has 12 other roller coasters to choose from. Don't act like it's the ONLY ride in the park and if it isn't working, the day is lost... *** Edited 5/29/2005 12:17:09 AM UTC by S2K***

LOL some of you guys kill me....
TTD had problems when it opened.
SOB had problems
Flight of fear had problems

IN FACT ALL COASTERS have problem when they first open! what is the difference with Kingda ka? please explain

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Earnhardt2 said:

IN FACT ALL COASTERS have problem when they first open! what is the difference with Kingda ka? please explain

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I can type out more than a page full of recently opened coasters that DIDN'T have a problem/problems when they first opened. Please watch what you type. The difference with Kingda Ka is that it is 456-feet tall, requires complex systems working together to bring a 2-ton train approximately 128mph in 3.5 seconds. That's the difference.

I can type out more than a page full of recently opened coasters that DIDN'T have a problem/problems when they first opened...

By all means, have at it. I mean that. Seriously. Type it out and lets see how many of those are correct.

If someone sees Kingda Ka, or TTD for that matter and that gets them to come to the park, they have every right to be upset.

While I do try to believe in the 'there are many other coasters at the park' attitude, it is dissapointing, especially if you've travelled quite a bit. I feel bad for the GP who probably doesn't know of KK's 'problems' and drive from many hours away to find it closed. At least people on here can ask around and see how it has been running the past few days.

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kRaXLeRidAh said:

a page full of recently opened coasters that DIDN'T have a problem/problems when they first opened. Please watch what you type. The difference with Kingda Ka is that it is 456-feet tall, requires complex systems working together to bring a 2-ton train approximately 128mph in 3.5 seconds. That's the difference.

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OKAY MOST MAJOR coasters.....

but you made my point thanks... you SHOULD be expecting problems... that was my entire point of the original post... by saying ALL coasters!... but I forgot... about the cbers who... have to correct EVERY thing you say.. sorry :(