KI Peanuts Ride Names Announced

Don't hate, Ken. Gonch just knows his stuff about most things.

I dont think hate is the appropriate word, as I dont hate anyone or their abilities here..

Envy his vast tv knowledge (and by assumption the time to watch it, or at least turn it on to observe whats going on) is really where I was going.

Pagoda Gift Shop said:
I still think they're going to get killed in merch sales. Diego and Dora vs. Snoopy?

Merchandise (and by extension, the free advertising that comes with it) is where I've been predicting the biggest dip in numbers. People will still come to the parks, they'll still eat the same regardless of whether the toy in the Happy Meal is a Snoopy or an Avatar (I know that's not apples-to-apples, but the point remains)...

ridemcoaster said:
Wow.. I really need your job Gonch..

I thought Gonch was a "House Husband" or "Stay at home Dad" or "Kept Man" or "Boy Toy" (I dont know what the PC term is these days ;)). That would certainly allow for *some* TV watchin'.

In that case I pass.. Not ready for kids thing.. I will let others fill my US kid quota for now :)

I'd assume that the Peanuts license is probably cheaper than the Nick stuff. They can probably sell shirts for less and make more per item, so while they may see a drop in total merch sales, I'd bet the overall revenue drop isn't as drastic.
They've had the Paramount parks for a couple seasons... they've got to have the #'s on the profitability of this stuff.

Lord Gonchar said:
Also just saw today that they're spinning off the Sheen character (from Jimmy Neutron) for his own new show later this year - making that franchise at least somewhat relevant again.

Best frikkin' news ever! Granted I don't know how they will pull off a show with him as the central character.

As for the rest of Gonch's comments they are absolutely spot on for my family. The kids care about Snoopy 2 or 3 days out of the year because of the holiday shows. For the rest of the 360 days it is all about Nickelodeon.

ridemcoaster said:
Sounds like a lot of TV watching going on.

Hardly. I spend too much time looking at niche interest sites. :)

The TV industry (and the numbers behind it) interests me like the amusement industry (and the numbers behind it) interests me.

Being able to share a few facts and opinions is no different than being able to spout some random coaster info or details on Disney passes. We all dork out in our own special ways.

Carrie M. said:
Gonch just knows his stuff about most things.

I'm a renaissance man. ;)

kpjb said:
I'd assume that the Peanuts license is probably cheaper than the Nick stuff. They can probably sell shirts for less and make more per item, so while they may see a drop in total merch sales, I'd bet the overall revenue drop isn't as drastic.

I believe this is exactly what the deal is.

Shades said:
Best frikkin' news ever! Granted I don't know how they will pull off a show with him as the central character.

Planet Sheen - The premise is that Sheen 'borrows' a rocket from Jimmy Neutron and lands on the planet Zeenu. Sheen will learn to deal with Zeenu's bizarre customs, a villain named Dorkus, a two-headed princess with a crush on him, and a talking chimp named Nesmith.

2Hostyl said: I thought Gonch was a "House Husband" or "Stay at home Dad" or "Kept Man" or "Boy Toy"

In my dreams! :)

So let me ask any parents here who have young kids-do they actually have knowledge of the Peanuts characters?? Do they watch the Peanut cartoons? Or are they introduced to them thanks to Cedar Fair parks?

Ive heard too that it was cheaper for CF to take KI to Peanuts instead of paying Nick. Their argument was that many of their character based rides are outdated...Peanuts is forever. I agree that KI will probably get hammered merchandise wise.

I am sad to see the Nick stuff go away from KI, I always loved the way the whole kids area looked. Of course I love Spongebob and will miss him too!!

"Compleeeete!!" :)

Jo
Lifetime Raptor flights: 2175 :)

2Hostyl said:
I thought Gonch was a "House Husband" or "Stay at home Dad" or "Kept Man" or "Boy Toy"

My official title is Satan's Cabana Boy.

The only time my daughter has seen snoopy, was at cedarpoint, and she watched the christmas special.

She watches nick almost every day. She knows all of the nick toons, and thinks sponge bob is a god...lol.

If and when we go back to kings island, the whole kiddyland area is going to be greek to her. Sure, she will enjoy the rides, but probaly not as much as if there were a giant sponge bob painted on it. That's how kids(and some adults) just are. Maybe instead of kings island this year, we will hit mall of america.

I am not sure what they are thinking with half the new names of the rides. I think the worst name is for the flume ride(race for your life). I am almost 40 years old, and have never heard of a tv show/ special with that name. The only reason I know now, is because someone on here said something about it.

Lord Gonchar said:

Being able to share a few facts and opinions is no different than being able to spout some random coaster info or details on Disney passes. We all dork out in our own special ways.

I assume I resemble that remark however the TV industry is far more vast than a few coasters or Disney passes. I merely was pointing out there was a level of impressiveness throughout my seeing your posts on your TV factoids. But I can be less impressed.. No biggie :)

ridemcoaster said:
I assume I resemble that remark...

I think we all do. That was kind of the point. It's not weird or impressive that any of us knows the weird stats, facts and info about the coasters, parks and industry that interests us.

Trust me, the TV thing is equally unimpressive. :)

So let me ask any parents here who have young kids-do they actually have knowledge of the Peanuts characters?? Do they watch the Peanut cartoons?

Yes and yes. And, they don't watch much Nick. But, my kids might well not be representative of the population in general.

I think you are missing my point Gonch..

Some areas of trivia have larger areas of factoids than others.. The TV industry is pretty large when compared to the roller coaster industry.

Im my original post, I was pointing out that you seem to have a deep TV knowledge .. No debate, no real comparison to any other area.. Just a simple.. WOW.. over the ages of me reading your posts you know a lot of TV (media) trivia.

Since I assume we all (most) have roller coaster knowledge in a roller coaster forum, Im less impressed by this, but to learn about peoples other base of knowledge intrigues me.

A simple "Thanks for compliment Ken, I do enjoy TV factoids" would probably have rounded that conversation off.

:)

ridemcoaster said:
A simple "Thanks for compliment Ken, I do enjoy TV factoids" would probably have rounded that conversation off.

Or you could have just let me have my false modesty.

Thanks for the compliment, Ken. I do know an unhealthy amount about children's programming. :)

I look at the two properties this way. Go into any toy store, book store, department store, or anywhere where merchandise that appeals to children is being sold. Look for the Peanuts merchandise, and then look for the Nicktoon merchandise. What are you going to find more of? Which is more popular with the kiddies?

Nick is more popular, period.

But that doesn't necessarily mean that people wont throw their dollar bills at Peanuts merchandise, especially when that's all they see all day long. Charley Brown T shirts and Snoopy plushies are very popular purchases at Cedar Point.

Doesn't mean that I'm not going to miss Ang (Avatar: The Last Airbender) and Spongebob.

Another thought about Avatar: The Last Airbender, that awesome cartoon might make a big comeback once the new live action film hits theaters this Summer. If CF would have kept Nick, they could have profited from the movie, by way of selling Avatar: The last Airbender Nicktoon merchandise. It may even become a trilogy, if it is well received, which would have prolonged the time that the toon merch would have been relevant. Perhaps they should have thought about how they could make more money instead of how they could spend less.

We really don't know how much the license was, so I could be WAY off here. Maybe it was all considered beforehand.

I do kind of like the snoopy theme, even though I don't like the cartoon very much. CF usually does a really good job.

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Anyone who's spent any amount of time walking through Knott's Camp Snoopy can tell you that kids love Snoopy and friends.

I'd rather a Peanuts theme than Nickelodeon. Nick is a shell of its former self and hasn't been watchable since the 90's. I find it amazing that the kids actually watch the drivel that's being provided. Other than SpongeBob, every single regular 90's Nick show is eons better than any show they have on there now.