I hate to say this

Tuesday, March 5, 2002 12:22 PM

Over the past few weeks or so, I have taken notice that alot of topics have been closed due to some strange rules that the Webmaster has listed in the Terms of Service, I for one think that Coasterbuzz is becoming very unpopular with it's forums becuase the Webmaster is closing topics, and (This one will probably be close too) I just read one about RCT files or something along the lines of viruses and "Jeff" closed it, which was very unfair in my opinion.But on the other hand I guess it gets frustrating as a Webmaster having to deal with that so. I just think that the TOS are a little bit ridiculous (excuse me, I really don't mean or want to offend anyone so please dont take this as a personal attack). I just wanted to say that I am really unhappy with my memebership here.

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 12:23 PM
then um..dont be a member here anymore. simple as that.

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I HATE SNOW!!! I am boycotting snow, I refuse to have fun in it.

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 12:32 PM
What do you find ridiculous? I think they are all peachy key and each rule is up there because it needs to be. You don't have all the nonsense talk here on CB like you do other sites and this is why. As for the post about RCT Jeff is totally right and anyone who pirates software illegally deserves to get a virus IMHO.

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 12:37 PM
Then go someplace else. I for one think Jeff is doing an amazing job here.

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 12:39 PM

ALF & Stoogemanmoe;

I don't think that type of response to Coasterdude's post was called for.

It seemed to me he posted a valid concern he had, and made every effort to not step on toes.

Now, granted, these concerns are probably better voiced via email with the webmaster one-on-one. But I too have noticed such things of late.

By reacting in such a way, you place his post in even more jepordy of being deleted or closed. I don't think that is fair.

Shaggy

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*** This post was edited by Shaggy on 3/5/2002. ***

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 12:44 PM
Personally, I think other sites have WAAAAYYYY too much garbage on their posts, not even relating to anything coaster! Jeff tries to keep the topics on par with the subject (Rollercoasters and amusement rides) as well as keeping the forums from becoming a warzone (CP vs SFMM etc). Are some of the topics he chooses to close valid topics??? Occasionally. But they border the line and / or sometimes change direction through-out replies and Jeff elects to close them before they get out of hand. If THIS discussion remains civil and constructive, Jeff will not close it. But as soon people start flaming eachouthr (or you, the poster), it WILL be closed. Deal with it, there's lots more topics to read and info to find. This site is designed to share information, not argue about who or what is better than something else.

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 12:51 PM
Well, I know one...no two sites that are cleaner than this site and have great webmasters and moderators. I could go on, but I don't think I will...
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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 12:53 PM
I would love to know where Shy One cause I haven't found any.

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Does CCI know how to make a bad coaster?

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 12:54 PM

Coasterdude8 said:

... I just read one about RCT files or something along the lines of viruses and "Jeff" closed it, which was very unfair in my opinion....



Yeah, I read that one too... sure sounds like piracy or somehow trying to get the game for free (which is piracy)... and I don't think that's what anyone wants to promote (it'd be along the same lines of giving away the link to download No Limits & providing the registration #'s).

It also, if anything, should have gone in the RCT forum, and not the "general buzz", so I think it was totally justified.

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 12:55 PM

First off, it irritates me to no end when people start a topic seeking agreement that the people who run (your site here) are megalomaniac bastards out to crush people. Not only is that a ridiculous assertion (really, I think we all have better things to do), it's also something akin to what goes on in high school at lunch. We can do without that. You've got a problem, come to me.

Second of all, said post appeared to address the issue of illegally defeating copy protection for a copyrighted game. It turns out that was a misunderstanding due to the incorrect use of terms on behalf of the author, and said converstaion is now going on in the RCT forum for your pleasure, with a correction of terms made by another member.

After nearly four years of running online forums in this community, I've got a pretty strong grasp of what makes good conversation, and seeing as how I pay the bills, that what I want to see. You might find the things we disallow in our TOS at other sites, but you'll have a hard time finding the substance. That's why thousands of people come here every day, and I'm not about to change that forumla. There's a certain expectation to uphold.

There you have it.

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"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 3:08 PM

Thanks to you Jeff for reiterating your stance. It is justified, as we all know, you pay the bills. Simple as that. I would like to make one comment, though. I find it disheartening that when one person makes a comment that might be misconstrued, others choose simplicity over thoughtfullness, and dog out the original poster. There is NO need for animosity on any website, let alone this one. This is NOT the United States. This is the internet. Your free speech rules DO NOT apply here. That being said, I applaud the posters on this site that thoughtfully prepare their feelings prior to writing them down here.

Stoogemanmoe, there was no attack on you. Get over it. To attack Shaggy back is even more foolish, as anyone who peruses this site has seen nothing but wisdom, and kindness from him. He was not knocking you. He was simply stating the fact that you and another poster above jumped the gun a little. Granted, I understand your point. I get tired of these posts too. They should simply be sent to the webmaster, but it wasn't. Still, that is no reason to slam the poster. Perhaps he just doesn't know how, or what we do here. I have problems with some things that I see here too. Still, I am grateful that Jeff allows me to use his site for my entertainment, and that is what this is.......... entertainment.

LoadedG....again, you are Mr. Eloquent. I agree 100%.
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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 3:23 PM
Really? Deal with Jeff on a personal maner as in sending an e mail to him and waiting for a response or IM'ing him on AOL and trying to talk to him about something? HA, that will be the day. I have sent Jeff legitment e mails before and none have gotten replys nor did any of my IM attempts. This whole site seems to be based around politics. I mean yes, I know that every fourm needs rules and regulations as does every group of people in a certian area of the world. Other wise we would have complete and utter chaos. However, I do find that rules are taken to seriously here. One post saying something somewhat negative about Jeff and he or another mod immediatly close it. Why is that? Are we not allowed to have our opinion heard? I think that is one of the reasons that CB isn't liked by a lot of people.

I personally have nothing wrong with most of the people here. I find the west coast people to be great and in a great mood. I usually have nothing against the east coast people here either. I talk to them sometimes on IM and they are all great, most of the ones I have met at least. I always like to help them out with any MM info or with whatever questions I may answer. I used to find this site to be one of the best sites on the internet and I still do look to it for up to the day news on coaster and park stuff. However, the fourms seem to be run by a tyranical empire of people (mods) who have let this stuff go WAY WAY to far to their heads. Jeff constantly using a sarcastic comeback, know-it-all remark, or just plain out rude because you can't handle criticisim.

I am an ADMIN over at americacoasters and I am a regular guest of West Coaster. I'm not writting this in any attempts to boost those to sites or to start a flame war between east and west or whatever else you think I might be getting at. What I'm trying to get at is telling you not to let this get to your head and don't think that you are the almighty coaster God or something along those lines. I mean, jeeze, do you really have to shun the people of your site bad enough so that they can't even talk to you on IM Jeff?

Go ahead and keep this in mind when you are closing the topic or banning me or whatever you want to do with this post. Just remember to think before you do anything why you are doing it. I'm not the only one who thinks this way. Maybe it's time you took a good look at who you really are being as a webmaster and running this site.

*** This post was edited by chris senn on 3/5/2002. ***

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 3:29 PM

Ok, I just feel like being a little brat right now...

After I saw what Jeff posted, I thought to myself...oh gosh, Jeff's being a hypocrite again. Time to check those TOS.... Ah yes, here we go. Number 2:

2. Use of objectionable words and offensive posts: Coasterbuzz is dedicated to be a family-oriented site. Our audience ranges in age from teens up to our senior elders. Therefore, we strive to maintain a clean and fresh environment suitable for all ages. Our forums are equipped to replace highly objectionable words with “****.” This doesn’t mean that you can continue to include these words in your posts. Offending posts that insinuates this type of behavior will be removed and the offender may be banned from making any further posts in our forums.

Anyone else think that what Jeff said makes/made him a hypocrite? But wait...What's new?

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If jeff can be a hypocrite, why can't we?

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 3:31 PM

Simply put....I'd post on these boards a lot more often, but for reasons already stated by others in this thread, I choose not to. And I think it's more than just a small group of people that feel the same way...I can't even count all the times I've seen someone start a thread voicing their opinions on Jeff or this site, and it just dissappearing (sometimes along with that member). Kinda sad.

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 3:34 PM
Wow.

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smile...it's cheap, and people will wonder what you're up to. :)

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 3:36 PM
Not to step on any toes, or take sides, but isnt the whole poin of posting to talk about coasters and parks and such, not discuss our personal opinions of the webmaster?

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smile...it's cheap, and people will wonder what you're up to. :)

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 3:38 PM

coasterbuzz.com not bashjeff.com

Sounds simple too me. This kind of stuff has no reason to be put on these forums. That is what email is for. And for everyone who always goes blah blah blah blah blah blah jeff never responds. Would you respond to the same thign that has been brought up a thousand times.

It seems pretty simple to me.

Jeff pays the bills= Jeff is God here

You people can't seem to get that through your thick skulls

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Does CCI know how to make a bad coaster?

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 3:54 PM
So with your theory you're saying that if you own a store and pay the bills, you can treat your customers like crap. I think you know what the end result is.

*** This post was edited by The Shy One on 3/5/2002. ***

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 3:55 PM

yeah, this isnt bashjeff.com... the last time that was attempted there was a lawsuit slapped on the person...

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Tuesday, March 5, 2002 3:56 PM

MagnumForce said:

coasterbuzz.com not bashjeff.com

Sounds simple too me. This kind of stuff has no reason to be put on these forums. That is what email is for. And for everyone who always goes blah blah blah blah blah blah jeff never responds. Would you respond to the same thign that has been brought up a thousand times.

It seems pretty simple to me.

Jeff pays the bills= Jeff is God here

You people can't seem to get that through your thick skulls

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Does CCI know how to make a bad coaster?


and sorry, but in no way is jeff a god, and if he is considered one here, in no way do i want to be a part of this cult :\

*** This post was edited by FreakLogic on 3/5/2002. ***

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