How many more will be taken away?
And I still have nothing bad to say about Riddler's Revenge.
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Homepark: Cedar Point
Home-away-from-homepark: Paramount's Kings Island
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I mean, I'd love to see all rides restored or rennovated before getting the boot, but economically, it isn't always a realistic option. If Herc were to be re-profiled to give an undisputedly good ride, it still likely wouldn't bring in the crowds that a new, somewhat unique ride would. And that's the bottom line.
Wooden rides are hardly on the endangered list, though, and good wood seems to be on the rise.
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Even though wooden coasters may not be "endangered", they're still the heart and soul of their respective parks. I'm happy Dorney retains the GOOD woodie, but still think they'll end up getting another wooden coaster *at some point*, and then they may have to think again about the cost of trying to *salvage* Herc....MAJOR re-profiling has *got* to be cheaper than building from scratch, and there's GOT to be other land that could be used for *yet another Beemer*.
CF did *just* purchase some additional land adjacent to the current Dorney property, right?
The point is if a ride is engineered well (B&M, GCI) then it doesn't matter if it is wood or steel, it will be a great ride. I did ride Hercules, and I wouldn't ride it again. However, I will make a trip back to Dorney to ride the new floorless in '05.
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Why hasnt anyone talked about my post yet? Usually is gets shot down or discussed by now...
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Perhaps his "assumption" is based on the fact that Hercules came in either second to last or last on Mitch's Wooden Coaster Poll for the past four years? Nah...that couldn't be it...
If a wooden coaster is really as marketable (and can be as successful at drawing in crowds) as a steel coaster, then why is it rare for a big, well established coaster park to build a wooden coaster? Because wooden coasters are *not* as marketable as steel coasters! The things that are usually pushed in marketing campaigns - height, speed, loops, records, etc - really don't (and can't) apply to wooden coasters. The examples in this thread of parks that have grown due to wooden coasters are exceptions, not the rule. Small parks usually do well with a wooden coaster installation (like Holiday World) but it doesn't work so well with big parks. Why? Because after adding a 200+ foot tall hypercoaster one year, how do you market a small wooden coaster that's still too aggressive to be a family ride? It's not an easy task, and it's a gamble, which is why most parks follow up one big ride with another big ride (or a new type of coaster...see SFGAdv). Say what you want about loving wooden coasters, but you're not the average amusement park visitor. This is the way it is.
-Nate
*** This post was edited by coasterdude318 9/7/2003 2:19:42 PM ***
Polls are just that,,polls. Merely peoples opinions. If your basing your opinions about rides based on polls, I feel sorry for you, honestly. Not to mention the fact that if your basing your opinions on rides that you haven't even ridden based on polls, then I really feel sorry for you. Nothing beats first-hand experience of actually being on a ride and judging it for YOURSELF. My opinion is never waivered by the opinions of others. I form an opinion on a ride AFTER I ride it. You know what they say, "opinions are like _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ , everyone has one." There are some rides I hate they everyone praises and vice versa. So don't gimme your "enthusiast" poll shtick. On terms of accuracy, go look at number 49 on Amusement Todays wood coaster poll. I'm sure MANY will disagree with that. That being said, let me go eat lunch now.
Dante isn't calling polls inaccurate, rather trying to get the point across that you base your opinions on rides after you ride them, not by what everyone else says.
-Nate
Mitch's Poll is based on ridership. Anyone who placed Hercules low on their ballot did so because that's where they felt it deserved to place. It ended up low in the final results because more people thought it sucked than didn't.
Again, we're glad you enjoyed the ride and will miss it. But your opinion does not reflect the majority of what enthusiasts WHO HAVE RIDDEN Hercules think about it. That does not invalidate your opinion.
Flip side of the coin: I've ridden Shivering Timbers but only rank it #31 our of 83 wooden coasters ridden. It was fun but it wasn't all that. I rank Leap The Dips much higher than Timbers. But Timbers ends up doing well in Mitch's poll because my opinion of the ride is in the minority. I can easily see why someone would love Timbers and rank it highly. Their opinion does not negate mine, and vice versa. There's no reason for either side to feel defensive about how they feel.
Sure, opinions are like buttholes...everyone has one. But when so many individual opinions are in agreement with each other there must be some shred of truth to them. What it boils down to is this: you really love a coaster that most people think is awful. Nothing wrong with that, but you need to accept the fact that you're in the minority. And there is absolutely no reason to continue to be so defensive.
mOOSH
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