How many more will be taken away?
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Brett
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No matter how many times i go from one to another and try to figure out why one rough hurts and the other is pure enjoyment, i cant figure it out. Seems to be the coaster that causes it. Poor design, bad maintainance, who knows. but those painful rough coasters can be burnt to the ground for all I care.
Ive never ridden Hurcules, but if it falls under the category of painful rough, then goodbye!
CrAzedFaNaTiC said:
Guess what, SFGAm isn't going to tear it up because you don't like it.
But if enough people don't like it they will.
Remember the coaster formerly known as Shockwave?
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People may go crazy over the big, fast, multiple inversion coaster with unique seating methods, but most people will try to go on every coaster. It may just be that "dinky" old woodie that makes the best impression on them, and you can bet they will return and ride it again.
And regarding Hercules, I think it will turn out to be a great move, people will love the floorless, just like they love Talon. If a ride just can't deliver any more, then I see no reason why it should stay.
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CoasterFan4Life said:
And regarding Hercules, I think it will turn out to be a great move, people will love the floorless, just like they love Talon. If a ride just can't deliver any more, then I see no reason why it should stay.
I just don't feel as though they are giving the ride a chance. Taking the ride down should be the very last resort thing. I feel as though all they did was pump "millions" of dollars into maintaining Hercules' current condition rather than pumping millions of dollars into reprofiling it or altering it into a great ride.
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CoasterFan4Life said:
If wood doesn't bring in $$, then how do Lake Compounce, Silverwood, Holiday World, Indiana Beach, Knoebels, and countless other parks survive when their #1 attraction(s) are wooden???
Just a small note, not that I'm disagreeing *at all*....this list SEEMS to me to be a regular "Who's who in wooden coaster MAINTENANCE"....I can't help but think that if these same *rides* were put in parks where they weren't being painstakingly cared for, that they wouldn't be half the draw that they ARE for their respective parks....;)
Personally I feel that any lost coaster is a terrible loss. I would hate to see Cedar Point take out Mean Streak. While it is not a smooth ride it does not cause me any pain. I don't feel SoB overly rough. I rode Steel Phantom on the last day of operation and I still found it a great ride (a better ride now). I rode Shockwave and found it to be fun but it was also replaced by a better ride.
I guess what I am trying to say is if a coaster must be torn down, I hope it is replaced by a better ride. Like Phantom, KC, Shockwave, and hopefully Hercules. Not like Drachen Fire. I understand that this was not only the most unique arrow looper ever built but also not the roughest one out there.
MagnumForce said:
Rough?Thats not ough, that is a lousy piece of enginering.
You are talkign to a person who holds wooden coasters in a much much much much higher regard then any steelie except for Magnum.
Magnum is rather rough at times but the ride more then makes up for it, same goes for Timbers, Twister, Beast, etc, hell even LoCoSuMo which is VEY rough. Oh yeah and I am a sucker for Arrow Loopers.
Hercules is a plain and simple peice of crap whose roughness is only partially responsible with the fact that its a total and complete POS.
One ride on that thing makes Mean Streak feel like a ide on Legend.
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i too hold woodie's in a much higher regard than steel coasters and after riding hercules in 2001 i walked away saying it was the worst wooden rollercoaster i have ever experienced. i have since then rode the boss at six flags st. louis and it rivals hercules for that position.
pure and simple: hercules was horribly engineered and performed very poorly....but i will say that when i first saw the ride it had me drooling because of how beautiful the first drop and rest of the layout is. truly fascinating design, truly horrible execution of design.
i hope some of you guys keep mourning the loss of hercules while i continue to enjoy rides on quality wooden coasters.
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No matter how much enthusiasts like wooden coasters, no wooden coaster that is built right and is actually a good ride will bring in the bucks like a big old Beemer or Intamin. The things that get people's attention and keep 'em comin back is height, speed, and loops.
OMG..:rolls eyes: I couldn't disagree with that statement more. Maybe that's how YOU feel, but that is not how the average guest feels. In fact, most woodies hold the interest level up over the long haul much better then a steel ride does. People get bored of most steel long before they tire of a woodie. And one look to rides like Space Mtn and Matterhorn prove that even among steel rides, it's not about height, speed, or loops....it's the quality of the ride!
Even though (insert big chain known for poor care for woodies here) may not take as much pride in a wood coaster like those parks would, I'd still rather a great ride, that only gives good rides due to poor maintenance, than an average or below-average ride giving downright horrible rides. Maybe, just maybe, if (same big chain) installed a woodie of high caliber, they would make an effort to take better care of it...maybe just wishful thinking, though ;)
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auscoasterman said:
I think if Hercules is exactly how not to do a wooden coaster, then Thunderbolt is the steel coaster example; and like Hercules, it won't be missed.
Speak for yourself. I'll miss Hercules and I know many others that will also. Have you ever even been on the ride? If not, how would you know to make such an assumption.
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MagnumForce said:
Rough? Thats not rough, that is a lousy piece of enginering.
Brent, I wouldn't really call Iron Wolf lousy engineering. If anything, it's brilliant engineering. However, it's WAY too much, and WAY overambitious given it's very small footprint, and the fact that it's a standup. If you put floorless cars on that track, you'd praise the day you were born, and you know it. Same goes for Mantis. Those earlier standups were just built too tight IMHO for a person (with ears) standing up.
My 2 cents. :)
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