Holiday World announces The Voyage

The name is the only thing I do not like...but what's a name but a word anyways.

One more thing I am feeling wierd about. It will open on May 6th, 2006 for the parks 60th anniversary. I always suspected that Paula was evil.

If it was June 6, 2006 you might have a point, but you are reaching for that 3rd 6.

I was thinking that Keith may have had a hand in the animation, but I thought the 3rd-person perspective would have been a bit cleaner had he done the animation. I suppose we could just ask him...

I really think it's NL, if you look closely you can see supports go through catwalks on low part of the ride. and it use same texture on catwalk.

Plus, on off ride video, it use same camera angle that NL use. Like follow one car, but stay on same distance but the camera wont turn laterialy and verticaly.

I have talked with some people, they also say it's from NL. So HW must have someone experienced to make this.

I don't think it's from NoLimits. I saw a bird fly overhead while going up the lift.

It was a black bird.

I think it was a Raven.

-shifty eyes-

Definitely (or unfortunately, however you look at it) not my work!

Voyage looks like and sounds like a good coaster. With the length, 90* turns, and it has 6 tunnels. it makes me I like to Holiday World ride every coaster in Holiday World 20 times like what I did in Las Vegas but that is another story. With all the world records and the surprise on Voyage. In my opinion, I think Voyage will be a good coaster.

From

Will Kovich

Holey moses, I think i have more than enough reason to make my first trip down to HW next summer.

that is the most awesome ride I have ever seen i think i am going to book my hotel rooms right now.

Judging from Bad Nitrus' previous work using 3D Studio Max...

...I think that this is just a more advanced version of No Limits (it was reported that parks or manufactures have had exclusive access to a more advanced version of the game).

...not to mention that although the on-ride view is great & sounds are nice... the train is empty in 3rd person & the camera angle resembles exactly what No Limits does. The trees & grass are low quality & no other HW rides can be seen, just trees. I'd put my money down and say that it's a great creation with No Limits...
...or a really really poor version using Studio Max

One way or the other, I hope this ride will ride as smooth as the animation shows. Im not sure how well GG other coasters ride... but I have confidence this will be in the top 5 woodies of the world coming soon!

holy crap!

I was at the announcement today. Will, Paula, and Mrs. Koch were just grinning from ear to ear. The construction site is so vast, but most of the coaster is going to be in the woods. It is going to be awesome. What am I thanksful for? Living in Indianapolis and HW is only three hours away. YES.

Brian *** This post was edited by Waterboy 7/14/2005 12:27:02 AM ***

Ok so I am the only one that thinks that large area at the end of the coaster just before the final break run could be used to put the icing on the cake with an awesome upward moving double helix with possibly another 90*, what would be even better is if this part hovered right over the people waiting in line.

Good grief - some people are never satisfied!

Awesome ride as it is. End of ;)

-Jimvy!

I wonder why they chose to go with steel supports.
Cheaper, maybe?

- Josh

I agree with invy. Just enjoy what they have given us and stop being so negative. I've only been a CB member for two months and some people are never happy at this site, and I thought ACE members are never happy. I'm 43 y/o and grew up near Cedar Point and I remember when the Blue Streak was the big coaster. By the way, Blue Streak still ROCKS.

Enough said.

Brian (waterboy)

Why is everyone saying it's like a combination of Hades and Timbers? With all those tunnels it looks more like a combination of Timbers and Tremors to me!

Jbird, the main reason IMHO is the how wide the coaster would have to be for the height (not that cost isn't one of the top contenders). Will hates cutting down trees and quite a few would have had to be cut down on the property to get this monster built. Someone correct me, but isn't Shivering Timbers' lift hill around 60 feet wide?

Mamoosh, I think the Hades relationship comes from the fact that Gravity Group created it and it holds some of the same high speed, under ground hills that Hades does. When I first saw the Hades design, I thought the thing would either totally rock or be the most painful piece of junk that was every built since The Lost Coaster of Superstition Mountain (Sorry I.B.). I read a report shortly before riding Hades, saying it had B&M smoothness. I found that sorta hard to believe until I rode it. For one, Hades is one of the fastest wooden coasters I've ever been on. I didn't think it would be so noticeable, but it's truly a speed machine..almost the wooden version of Millennium Force. The amazing feature about it was how the entire ride could be so smooth and rapid while maintaining the feel of a woodie. In short, after what was pulled off with Hades, this ride looks like it will be not only another speed machine, but possibly a door opening to a whole new generation of mega woodies that are not painful.

About the 3D thing, a lot of you are making it seem like 3D Studio Max is an advanced roller coaster animation program. It is a 3D modeling and animation program that could be used for just about any 3D animation out there. It is very flexible, meaning that I think it's rather difficult to distinguish if a 3D coaster animation was created with it, being that every designer has his own methods of making the magic work. The Voyage animation as well as other coaster animations could have also been created with Cinema 4D, Maya, or any one of the long line of 3D modeling and animation programs out there. Either way, modeling a coaster in a program such as 3D Studio Max is a long process mainly reserved for experienced 3D animators. The software allows them to make any kind of textures or track they want, making it near impossible to distinguish what program it was created in.

With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if a particular animation studio works with roller coaster companies to create their animations, often using the same track and textures for each project, leaving a visual resemblance between different animations. When you bring up poor quality in the tree graphics, this could mainly be due to meeting deadlines. Overly complex trees and landscapes can take an incredibly long time to render out in 3D programs, simply making it impractical for commercial design studios. On the other hand, 3D animators like BadNitrus could take animations to the next level because he does it in his free time and not under a company's watch.

Back to disappointment some people have in the announcement, I think it's hard to meet everyone's expectations after building up a project for so long. While I am absolutely pleased with the concept of the new themed area and amazed with the new roller coaster, I can't say that I'm not a bit surprised in the lack of new rides this project includes. The dark ride is way more than I could as for and I'm really happy about that, but seeing how Holiday World lacks both a Carousel and Ferris Wheel, I would see those as obvious additions that were left out. I'm sure part of that decision came from a quality vs. quantity mind set, but I think variety is another factor. My last impression of Holiday World was that they were a beautiful, detail-driven park with two great roller coasters, but they lacked when it came to a variety in adult rides. When I say adult rides, I'm thinking along the lines of a Ferris Wheel or Full-Scale train....something that is relaxing and entertaining for non-thrill seekers... I would like to see Holiday World focus a bit more on rides like this in the future..maybe even a chair lift that goes into the woods.. I'd love to take a family trip to Holiday World in the future, but I just can't see my aging parents spending the day on the train through mother goose land!

Mamoosh, I think the Hades relationship comes from the fact that Gravity Group created it...

Those same people from Gravity Group [Larry & Chad] created Tremors, too.

*** This post was edited by Mamoosh 7/14/2005 2:36:26 PM ***

24 seconds of airtime! Wow! That is insane, but I think everyone is hyping up the layout a little to much.

What I like about it is that the ride did not ruin the way the park looks. In that as many trees were kept as possible.