Hey Everyone..

I bet the new guy can't even understand what the hell your saying!

I wasn't responding to your post because I love Top Thrill Dragster (even though it is a fun ride) I was responding to your post because you were basically stating that Jeff is hitler and the rest of us are Cedar Point Nazi's to anyone who joins this site. Which I don't think most of us are.

So stop berating all of us for our opinions and lets just all get along! ;) *** Edited 8/3/2004 2:00:42 AM UTC by Kyle Fobe***

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This is not the place for objective discussions of CP. We are to treat CP with kid gloves or face the wrath.

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Wrath of what? Your "poor me" rant is tiresome. Young Kyle is right. Is it only "objective" if it's aligned with your position?

Your suggestion that I'm a "hack" for the park just shows you're trying to be a jerk to piss me off, which further hurts whatever credibility you can muster for any other debate. It's more smokescreen to avoid responding to those same points I keep asking you to respond to. You know, the ones you've avoided now for three posts?

I suppose I should go edit all of those news items over the years about negative attendance and revenue results, lawsuits and downtime before they make me turn in my "CP Hack Membership Card." I'd hate to not live up to your expectations.

Jeff:

I refuse to debate point by point with he who throws out stats like 90% and then refuses to back it up with any evidence. I can never win an argument with a man who is willing to make up facts to fit his argument. When you start talking about super secret information that only you have and cannot divulge, it becomes difficult to take the debate seriously.

I fully expect you to keep prodding and responding as you always do. The fact of the matter is that you’ve thrown out some ridiculous “90%” reliability claim and then tell everybody this is true because you say it is so and that you have the super secret stats to back it up! LOL!

I’m sure the 94%ers are with you! Probably even the 14 year old. You should feel proud to have such mind control. They probably believe that there is indeed super secret information out there. I didn’t drink the kool-aide! I ask again for you to offer ANY evidence for your claims.

At this point it is for comedic purposes only. You are correct that I’m baiting. Funny thing is that you keep biting again and again. I realize how frustrating I am for you. I don’t buy your entire BS at face value. I ask for a little logic and evidence. You give super secret stats that nobody can see! LOL! :-)

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Jeffrey R Smith said:

I was just warning the new guy that this was a pro-CP board!

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Are you really serious? Didn't you stop to think that the reason it tends to be "pro-CP" is that Cedar Point is a rollercoaster destination park? I mean.... come on! This is a ****ING rollercoaster board. Cedar Point has a ****load of coasters. Period. Who cares if there are fanboys?

I go to SFMM, SFGadv, SFA, and can agree that those parks are less than stellar, customer service wise, but I don't go for that. If I want service, I go to Holiday World, or Knoebels.

Last May (when TTD was done... oh, and by the way, I wasn't heartbroken), I was at CP with friends. I was thirsty, and asked for some water. I pulled out my wallet, and they guy says... "nope, it's free. No charge."

That's a great park. No matter how much you dislike Mean Streak.

Jeff is an asshole, but so are you. I like Jeff. A lot. I'm not in his fanclub. He probably thinks I'm an asshole too.... and you know what? I am. I'd like to like you. I will when you stop the pointless back talk. If you want to fit in here, you have to admit you are flaming threads, only to see who'll bite. That isn't cool. Go to RRC, and fight with Rastus if you want to argue about semantics.

Please.... knock this stupid **** off.

Oh.......... and welcome to the announced NEW member! :)

Yes Jeff is a God! Hail Jeff! Hail Jeff! You better watch it Jeffrey or he'll terminate your membership for not following him and the other 94%ers of this website! ;)

Actually, this 14 year old doesn't bow down to him like he is a godly figure or something, just like many of the other people on this site don't either. I'm just trying to say that maybe you should give the people on this site a little more respect, instead of saying we all bow down to Jeff. Don't disrespect people just because they don't see everything the way you see it.

You'll gain a lot more respect and friends if you respect people and their opinions. *** Edited 8/3/2004 3:17:34 AM UTC by Kyle Fobe*** *** Edited 8/3/2004 3:32:11 AM UTC by Kyle Fobe***

God is with a capital G, Kyle. Don't make me get the ruler!
:)
Now back to the arguing..

Man I deserve the ruler with all the pointless punctuation mistakes I have been making!

Now what were we arguing about again? ;)

You are correct nasai! I am an a-hole as is Jeff! I have some super secret stats that show Jeff is a bigger a-hole than me though! I can't show them to you, but you can be 90% sure this is true! :-)

Mr 14 yo:

You are correct that I will one day get run off CB. It has been threatened before. Dissenting views are not well received around here.

P.S. All kidding aside! I do think Jeff is an A-hole (as am I) who has the best informational coaster site on the net. The news is fast and usually the discussions are cool. Most of the time I do not even respond unless I've got something really nice (see my Avalanche and SFFT posts) or relly bad (see my SFMM and TTD posts). I should have never responded to this post because I knew this is what I would get. I could not help myself when the new guy gave me such a softball with respect to TTD!

Dude I was joking!

and

I could not help myself when the new guy gave me such a softball with respect to TTD!

This guy gave you a softball? ;)

Kyle, you rock. Have you met Ryan? Both young, and studly. Amazing. :)

"Oh yea, Kyle's the man"

Please someone be a fan of Road Trip ...

You know, for all of the praise about how great the site is, you'd think it would be possible that after this many years, maybe, just maybe, I'd know a few people here and there in the industry that could provide me with real, valid information and someone else could take it on faith that I'm not making it up. Hell, in this case you could probably call someone in the PR department and they'd probably tell you.

But yeah Rob, you are an asshole, but you're a musician and chicks dig you (a few guys too, for that matter), so I'm probably just jealous.

Rob a musician? Hardly!! He's a drummer ;)

He IS an asshole though. And there's no other asshole I'd rather have as my friend :) ("How many assholes do we have on this ship?......keep firing assholes!")

Who here is an asshole? YO!
(God, I love that movie) :)

Rob - who loves both Jeff's with aplomb. *** Edited 8/3/2004 4:07:31 AM UTC by nasai***

I guess it would pain you to know that I myself am a musician Jeff! Check out:

sonofclyde.com

This is not ruthless promotion, but just evidence to back my claims! You know I always like evidence in my arguments.

P.S. I play every instrument on the album, not just drums!

P.S.S. Where do you live nasai? I need a drummer for the live gigs!

Not only are we all assholes...I guess we're all musicians....guess who's a guitarist....full time?

Wow, I'm very surprised by that, I thought you were one of those "emgee's" (like Moosh). ;)

Speaking of Musicians, I play piano!

I was reading your biography and I had no idea Jeff! ;)

Unknown to most of his friends, Jeff was a superstar in his bedroom. *** Edited 8/3/2004 4:18:08 AM UTC by Kyle Fobe***

Getting a kick out of this topic no doubt.

Time to rile up the troops and see how far I can get

with this "out of the norm" opinion.

I find SFKK to be a better run park than SFSTl. Yeah, I said it and I am serious.

Now for the kicker. I find SFGAm to be slightly better than CP in customer service and ride efficiency. "Oh my fricken god, he just said that an SF park has slightly better qualities than a CF park?"

Yes I did.

Oh, and Rob isn't a musician anymore so he doesn't score the chicks. :) *** Edited 8/3/2004 4:24:58 AM UTC by Chitown***

Yeah, but I have a HOTT jap chick for a wife. ;) Scott ain't got ****.

Umm...I like Viper at GAdv.! No, not really. Just wanted to have a dissenting opinion so I didn't feel left out (how's that for irony?).