Hades @ Big Chiefs - CoasterBuzz

It's not right. Having seen it myself, the tunnel is not wide enough for two-way traffic side-by-side.

-Nate

Does anyone know when this baby will open? We are heading to the Dells June 11 and 12. Also, how are the coasters at Big Chief's?

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Hades is scheduled for 2005. Avalanche I think should open later this month or early next month. Zeus is a great coaster with one of the best turnarounds out there. Cyclops has the strongest ejector air of any woodie if you sit in the back. It also has nice air on the second hill.

If that dude was not right about the tunnel being wide enough for 2 way traffic, then he might be full of it on the pic being the second hill. Maybe it is 3rd or 4th or something else.

Probably the 3rd or 4th major hill. But now I was wondering how Big Chief's is going to pay for that monster? When I was there with Pinball Lord there looked like only about 20-30 cars in the parking lot at the most. Big Chief's will need a minumum of 1,000,000 plus visitors per year to pay for that unless Nick's dad left him at least $20 million and enable Nick to pay cash for the ride. I am very happy that they are getting a HUGE awesome woodie!! Just don't go broke so that it can stay open for the rest of my life! :-)

You think this ride is going to cost $20 million? Hmmmm.......

-Nate

At least $10-15 million for the ride and another several millions maybe $5 million for other improvements. Digging 2000-3000 feet of tunnels expecially in excess of 50 feet deep will NOT come cheap. The drop onto the tunnel entrance by Zeus needs to be at least 150' above the ground to make it to a 90' turnaround especially when you go further below ground for such a long distance. I think to rebuild Boss now would be at least $7 million and Hades is now very likely to be bigger than that plus all of the tunnel work that was done over the winter. If the ride starts out by the castle like the construction worker told us this is going to be an extremely large woodie!! :-) *** Edited 6/5/2004 10:46:24 PM UTC by Pink Floyd Fanatic***

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I think you're reading way too much into what you were told (as well as believing some things that are obviously false), and I think there's no way this ride is going to be anywhere near the magnitude of the Boss. I'd continue to say "don't get your hopes up", but it's clearly too late for that.

-Nate

This coaster goes underground at least 3000ft under the parking lot. The pic is the turn around which is about 90ft.

My friend The Pinball Lord who I met several times in 2002 sent me some pics that look amazing. The tunnel houses both the outbound and inbound tracks but Im told the station area is at a far lower level than the parking lot.

It's possible this could be the worlds longest wooden coaster.

Chuck, who knows Jeff Mason (CCI's former construction supervisor) is among the work force.

Nate, Just seeing the pictures this coaster will be over 4-5 thousand feet long and thats only from the first hill to the turn around and back, Something tells me this coaster will have plenty of speed after comming out of the tunnel the second time so who knows what else is in store.

I can tell you this, Concrete tunnles are not cheap. Just like a major part of a house cost is foundation, So is coasters.

SOB is well in excess of the 20 million mark and still climbing.

Chuck, who just hopes this is a great ride and not problematic

I wonder about that sort of thing, but considering the people behind this coaster, I would imagine that any potential problems have been considered. Could be why they are building this ride over a period of two years instead of rushing it in just one.

I agree with Rob on this one, and also think that several *people* are about to make a *grand statement* with this one when it opens next year!!!

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Charles Nungester said:

"This coaster goes underground at least 3000ft under the parking lot."

Huh? You mean it goes 3000 ft. under the whole length of the parking lot?!? If so, That's Insane!

I'm wondering if anybody cares to show or link to a site that has pics of diving to atlantis, the other new Mt. Olympus coaster. All that I can find are the RCDB construction pics.

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Charles Nungester said:
This coaster goes underground at least 3000ft under the parking lot. The pic is the turn around which is about 90ft.

That parking lot is not that big. It's a long tunnel, yes. It's not 3000 feet however.

My friend The Pinball Lord who I met several times in 2002 sent me some pics that look amazing. The tunnel houses both the outbound and inbound tracks but Im told the station area is at a far lower level than the parking lot.

I've seen it for myself. There's no station area constructed yet, so I have no idea how the guess about the station came about. Additionally, there is no way that tunnel can house two tracks side-by-side. It's simply not that wide.

It's possible this could be the worlds longest wooden coaster.

Uh, yeah, don't count on it. I have no idea what pictures you're talking about that show the ride is "4-5 thousand feet long" since only a small portion is complete.

-Nate *** Edited 6/6/2004 6:05:17 PM UTC by coasterdude318***

If you take a stright line from both ends of the tunnel it would be at least 700-1000 feet from one end to the other. Not to mention that some construction pictures last winter showed some twisting trenches. There is no doubt that there will be at least 3000 feet of track(both directions) under the parking lot!! :-) Unlike the weak overbraked coasters at VF this will most likely be the greatest ride ever built in world history!! :-) I hope to make Wisconsin Dells (within an hour away at the most) my new home within the next few. Now the only bad thing I can say about Hades is the lack of a year round warm climate! Nick will have to start selling 2005 season passes because he already sold me one if they ever go on sale! :-)

I saw the trenches before they were covered. There is not 3000' worth.

-Nate

Either way it will be a BIG woodie! You have to have a very tall hill (At least 130' tall or more) on the side of the tunnel by Zeus to make it up a 90 foot tall turnaround on the other end. A 130' tall lifthill "wood" give Hades the lifthill height record! :-) Boss' lifthill is 125' and the American Eagle @ 128'. A double dip of 155' or more would have the woodie drop record or more if you don't count Ohios as part of the midwest.

I'm not convinced the drop that currently stands in the parking lot isn't the first drop.

-Nate

I think I will believe Nick before I believe you and he too told us that it was the turnaround.

Im going to take my shot at Naming this coaster.

HELL ON WHEELS!

Chuck

http://community.webshots.com/album/133348116CYwRkE
This is the only other source of photos I have other than the rcdb ones. If there are other pics that show more turns in the tunnels, does anyone have a link?

I like the theory about the grand statement. It would make sense that the new company needs to make a good impression.