"Forgotten CCI's"
I would LOVE to see the Flyer rebuilt... it was my very first roller coaster, and I was literally in tears when I learned that it had been torn apart (I was only ten years old at the time, but I would still shed a tear today).
Has Morey's ever considered the idea, or is it just a fantasy of ours?
Boss is a great ride, but like Jeremy said, no real standout moments...Twisted Sisters gets a bad rap IMO, because I thought it was really fun, and the first drop had a really unexpected pop of air when riding in back that I found enjoyable. The ride was a bit on the rough side in some places, but that's SF for you. Also, Tremors is *by far* the coaster I want to ride the most. Funny, I went to Silverwood when I was about 10(visiting grandparents in Idaho) and all they had was Corkscrew. If I only I knew what was coming in the near-future of the park, I may have asked to stay out there a bit longer.;)
Agent Johnson said:
Well, if anyone every figured out who I am, they would know the realism there, but for arguements sake, I, and others feel they should lean towards a replica of the Hunt's Flyer on Hunt's Pier, to satisfy to riders who feel the Great White is a bit to much. It could be a version with a steel structure, 5 car trains, and magnetic brakes, to be safe and efficient. CCI could be the builder, b-t-w.
But, for now, the Great White and Great Nor Easter hold there own as the most popular rides. And take this Great Adventure, if you remove Medusa, GASM, and Nitro, you have a nice Animal Safari. No other boardwalks have the rides Moery's have. Period. And where does SF get off saying they have more rides, when Moreys have 89?
Take away Great White and what do you have, a permanent carnival with a lousy SLC ;), how is that for a change? Blackpool Pleasure Beach, by the way, has been any will probably always be the best boardwalk amusement park on the planet. With classic rides, four woodies, and awsome ride like Vahalla and Playstaion:The Ride(Morey's Pier cannot compare to those rides). Also you have Steeplechase, Pepsi Max, Avalanche, and Revolution. Don't go bashing a park like Great Adventure when Morey's Pier doesn't even have the thrils to deliver.
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The Outlaw -- Adventureland is my home park. The Outlaw is a great little woodie; kind of a smaller Hershey Wildcat in my opinion One big plus is its PTC train with buzz bars! You get some great airtime in the back.
Adventureland is a nice park and definitely worth checking out. The Tornado is a fairly good woodie (I've logged over 150 rides on it in my 23 years). It has some airtime and gets beeter a the end of the day, plus it has PTC's with buzz bars also and skid brakes! Also, there are no trims on the Outlaw or Tornado, so no real annoyances to complain about. The Dragon isn't too great, but is a welcome change to an Arrow corcscrew. The Underground is a fun dark ride/wooden coaster. They had to install brakes on it, because it picks up a lot of speed and really zings you around the turns. Adventureland has a great selection of typcal park rides including a Spaceshot, Mixer, Inverter, log flume, rappids raft ride, train, tilt-a-whirl, scrambler, swinging ship, flying umbrellas, falling star, crazy dance, bumper cars, himalaya, merry go-round, sky ride, giant ferris wheel, balloon race, and several others. It has a nice traditional park feel with bits of themeing. The enterance and "main street" are modeled after Disneyland/Magic Kingdom. There's even a Tea Cup ride and a show stage that rises out of the ground like at Disneyland and a bridge at the end of mainstreet, but no castle. :). The sky ride is like a ski lift with bench style chairs and it takes you from the front east corner to the back west corner of the park and through the trees which are trimmed and shaped around the ride path and your feet can drag across the tops of the trees (kinda of neat). It takes you high above the log flume ride which is kind of fun as you're dangling high above the resevoir. The park is very pretty at night with lots of lights on the rides and the crowds usually thin out considerably by dusk, so you can just sit on Outlaw and ride it non stop for the last couple of hours the park is open. The Tornadao usually hass a line but you can get a ton of rides in. It's been MANY years since I was there a on busy day when they ran both trains on the Tornad, but on a weekday, the wait is usually less than 15 minutes.. I Be sure to get some night rides on it. It picks up enough speed by the end of the day to give some nice airtime in the front. The back always gives you some pretty good air over the first drop. Check out the park website for a map to give you a better idea. www.adventureland-usa.com
They're finally offering season passes, so I'm excited about that. Also, they're installing some new kind of water ride. It sounds to be a cross between a rappids raft ride and a flume kinda of like those wide tube slides at waterparks where five people or so sit in the big inner tubes.
It really is a nice park. I take it for granted having been there so many times. Unfortunately, they don't bring in enough money to get the big expensive coasters. It would be nice if someone (i.e. Cedar Fair) picked them up and invested a lot of money in it and brought in some major steel coasters and a full-size CCI. I think they could make it into a destination park for out-of-staters and really improve business. Hopefully the new Omaha park won't devisatte them.
-Matt in Iowa
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Just for a different opinion on Boss -
I think its just about as good as coasters get. The first drop/double down is probably my favorite part of any coaster, ever. It feels like the train is trying to tear the track apart, and the track is trying to tear the train apart. Seriously, on a few of the many night rides I've had on her, i've nearly seen God. That moment is more extreme than anything i have experienced on a coaster.
The only complaint i really have is i wish they would tone down the MCBR, and that the hills on the section going towards the helix had a bit more pop to them. But that's all.
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Agent Johnson said:
Hey Vertigo, I have been to Blackpool, and the piers there are a bit slow to the draw. If you are referring to the Pleasure Beach, which is different, and if you work in this field, you would have known that. And the Thompson's have had about a 80 year head start on the Morey's, thank you. And compared to what other themers offers for the price, the $35 pier passport / waterpark admin for the 89 rides is one awsome bargain. And FYI, the Great White and the Great Nor'Easter are GREAT. period.
I'm not talking about South Pleasure Beach, I'm talking about Blackpool Pleasure Beach alone. It doesn't matter which park was built first, they have the much more of the classic rides PLUS state of the art attractions, Morey's Pier has carnival ride and portable coasters. Many park(and carnivals :) ) offer those wristband and practically every boardwalk does that(Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk, Mrytle Beach, Old North Beach, Belmont Park) and the water park usually comes free. Agent Jhonson, I don't mean a word about this silly arguement, I'm just talking the talk about Morey's Pier like you put down other parks. A taste of your own flavor.
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Hey, I am up for critics, but I stand on Morey's ride arsenal. In addition to the 3 big coasters, they have a Hopkins Zoom Phloom, one of only 8 Huss Condors, the first Huss Breakdance on the east coast, a vertical ski lift ride out over the Great White, 6 go kart tracks, 2 skycoasters, with 1 in storage, the first Zamperala Skyships monorail, the first Zamperala Skycycle monorail, 2 themed golf courses, 4 Dodgem's, the first and only Mack park mount tea cups, 2 walk thru mazes, 3 dark rides, and a 3-D walk thru, one of the 10 tallest ferris wheels in the world, which Vekoma built, and on and on. And to flat out compare, BPB games and f/b are no match against the Morey's. BPB has the live shows and the woodies, but after that, its all this and that.
I have extensive knowledge of both operations, and they are good, but back on US soil, Morey's could quite easily fill up a very large theme park with attractions. And if you take a walk under the piers, you will see enough cement footers holding rides up that they are not 'carny' rides in the least. And for what it is worth, they are only 3-4 major rides away (hyper, mine ride, B&M, and a good rapids) ride away from having the best selection the US. And where is BPB waterpark? They don't own the 'wee sandcastle' in Blackpool, since you have been there. Morey's have 2 gated properties, and they are good. Can you swim in the Irish Sea? Hell no.Fact is Fact.
And BPB was allowed to cross the street to merge properties years ago. If the Morey's could link all their piers together, it would be Great Adventure who? And where else can you get 4 family coasters that are great trainers for the kids? And a sky slide. And considering they are a pure 'Oceanfront' operation, it adds to the dimension of excitement.
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Just to add something...
I can't compare Morey's to SFGrAdv (have not been to GrAdv since 1978), but I will say that it stacks up very well to a certain Six Flags park near D.C.
While lacking anything in the way of theming, ride for ride, I believe I would take Morey's over many of the major parks that I have visited. Granted, as stated, no hyper etc, but an excelent wood coaster and a very good SLC (I have been on far rougher and far worse maintained coasters at other parks). When it comes to flat rides, Morey's wins hands down over many of the major parks. (and in that mix there are 4 dark attractions too). Also, during my visit there, with the exception of the Zoom Phloom (which was down because of a leak in the one drop), ALL rides were operating (something that many of the major parks can not boast).
Add to that the fact that the employees were not only friendly, but actually competent and efficient (a concept strange to some parks... and one major chain in particular) and all the rides were in very good physical shape, and I would agree that all three piers combine can hold their own to most of the major parks out there.
Again, the only thing lacking was theming. Of course there are two things to look at... 1) the entire ocean front / boardwalk experience is a "theme" unto itself (no need for any artificial theming) and 2) there are still some of us out there that let the rides and coasters stand on their own merit... we do not have to be "entertained" by theming to consider something good.
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Amen......
I could care less about theming anyway... The ride is what matters. A theme has nothing to do with my personal experience, but that is my perspective.
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Rob,I could also care less about theming.If I want eye candy,I will go to Disneyland.My #1 coaster(PNE Coaster) has no theming.In fact at first glance,it looks so-so.The experience of riding it blows me away every time.
I still have yet to ride a CCI.Silverwood,here I come!
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Wow, a flame war about Morey's Pier, Blackpool Pleasure Beach and SFgav, interesting...beats another CP v. SFMM war. I never though I would see a comparision between a British seaside park and a American seaside park, looks like CB is expanding its horizons and perspective.
Nothing like a man's loyalty to their park, right Agent Johnson. Morey's looks great but its really hard to compare to the CP of Britain with its poor imitation of Magnum(I like to call it PepsiXL-2000). Anyways, I would consider it a honor for Morey to be compared to the supposive king of European parks. There, this maudlin flame war should stop, hopefully both sides are appeased. I always loved to be the mediator in a arguement. Although, more flame wars about Morey's will give it the attention it deserves so I'll keep flaming away... Morey's has a better arsenal of coasters that SFMM and CP combine:) Beat that!!
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Ronald S. Anderson said:
Rob,I could also care less about theming.If I want eye candy,I will go to Disneyland.
For the record, I never once mentioned theming, which I will admit Morey's has very little of. The "ambiance" I speak of is that of Wildlwood itself... the famous Wildwood boardwalk on one side, the Atlantic ocean on the other, and the beach all around you. Anyone who has been to Wildwood will know exactly what I am talking about!
SLFAKE and Agent Johnson have already sung the praises of Morey's quite well, and I really can't add too much to what they have already said. I would just like to state that, as much as I love B&Ms, I would much rather ride the Nor'easter a dozen times in one hour rather than wait an hour at Six Flags to ride Batman once.
sethman said:
Wow, a flame war about Morey's Pier, Blackpool Pleasure Beach and SFgav,
There's a big difference between flaming and arguing. Just so you know.
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