"Forgotten CCI's"

Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:53 PM

I was on RCDB (yes I know, again!) and I checked the list of CCI's (I know they had it on the website, but this is just a list and it's easier for me.) I just want to list a few rides that I haven't ridden and I've heard very little about but want to here more about, if you have ridden any of the coasters mentioned, what do you think of them? I want to know.

Boss, SFSTL (This one is probably the most surprising one to me, it looks absolutely insane, not to mention it's enormous, but in our discussions, it's almost non-existant.)

Cannonball Run, Waterville USA (looks like a nice yet affordable ride, any information on the park too?)

Cheetah, Wild Adventures (Heard some about this before it opened but next to nothing after it did.)

Excalibur, Funtown Splashtown USA (What a wicked looking coaster [for it's size], like the station too.)

Outlaw, Adventureland (Not very tall, but this one really looks to have an intense unmerciful layout sure to please. Anything about the park?)

Rampage, Visionland (Saw this one on TV and wanted to ride it immediately, but I never hear about it on the web.)

Silver Comet, Martin's Fantasy Land (Looks to be one of the most unique layout wood coasters of all time. WOW)

Sky Princess, Dutch Wonderland (Now maybe this one is more for a thrill seeking family, but it's CCI's first coaster and it looks to be very graceful and flows real nicely)

And finally Tremors, Silverwood Theme Park (This definately looks like an excellent example of CCI taking a limited amount of money and creating an outstanding coaster reguardless of size)

If you have ridden any of the above coasters mentioned, tell me what you thought of it, I think all of these coasters appear to be outstanding yet I don't hear anything about them. I'm curious to know why.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:04 PM
Almost forgot, Great White, Morey's Pier looks like a cool out and back airtime machine.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:05 PM

Excalibur is an excellent ride especially for its size, it contains some killer airtime and some nice little laterals. The station is gorgeous at night, which helps to enhance the great ride Excalibur gioves at night.

Unforunately I haven't rode the other forgotten CCI, but their relative obscure (Except for Boss, Cheetah and the Sky Princess)location may have to do with the fact they are not talked about. Not many Enthusiasts have the priveilage of visiting Silverwood, Martin's or Adventureland.

I hope to get to Martin's the next time I go to Niagara Falls. Silverwood is so isolated, I wish I could visit but man is it out in the middle of Nowhere. Those CCI's look fantastic especially Tremors.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:08 PM

I've been on Outlaw and its on of my favorite wooden coasters. The ride itself is not huge, but Outlaw packs a nice punch, and is a great ride to get 10 or so laps on during the day.

Outlaw itself is set up as the main piece to a Wild West themed area at Adventureland (nice park by Des Moines, IA). The rest of Adventureland has all sorts of fun lil things that makes it rather unique. The park features 4 coasters total, including another CCI called the Underground (think a tamer version of Lost Coaster of Superstition Mountain) the park also features OD Hopkins first looping roller coaster (The Dragon) which runs pretty similar to an Arrow double loop.

The park's signature ride is the Tornado a coaster that was once ranked as a top ten coaster and was designed by William Cobb who also designed the much famed Texas Cyclone.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:29 PM

Darn, I'm going to the Canadian side of Niagra Falls this year but I won't make it to the American, I didn't know Martin's was that close to it, but now that I think about it, it is.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:42 PM
Well BOSS was *brutal*. Not necessarily in a bad way (suggestion, hold on and sit in the back) but a slight bit of discomfort. But really, it didnt have a lot of 'standout' moments *to me*.

Tremors 'looks' like the world's most perfect coaster...at least in my line of thought (yes, moreso than The Legend :)). But as I've said before, I dont see myself in Idaho anytime soon...
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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:11 PM

SFGAMDie Harn Said: I'm going to the Canadian side of Niagra Falls this year but I won't make it to the American, I didn't know Martin's was that close to it, but now that I think about it, it is.




MFI's Silver Comet is an unbelievable great coaster. I like to call it Legend lite. Call me crazy as soon as I get a couple of rides in at SFDL's S:ROS I am ready to leave and head back home toward MFI. They have a great after 5:00PM price. Generally you can ERT Silver Comet until closing. We really like MFI and dropped in three times last year.

MFI is only minutes from the Canadian/US border crossing of Queenston/Lewiston. You owe it to yourself to drop in and experience Silver Comet and don't forget that PCW is less than 2 hours from the falls. (depending on traffic) The only place even close to Toronto traffic that I have experienced is Chicago.

Regards,

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:18 PM

Don't forget three other forgotten CCI's, the ones at Big Chiefs, all thre are very special in there own right and a whole lot of fun and packed with great elements.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:18 PM
You can't forget MegaZeph at Jazzland.
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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:33 PM

2Hostyl said:
Tremors 'looks' like the world's most perfect coaster...at least in my line of thought (yes, moreso than The Legend ). But as I've said before, I dont see myself in Idaho anytime soon...


Jeremy, I TOTALLY agree!! IMO Tremors also looks to be the perfect woodie. Huge airtime, legend-ish laterals, and probably the coolest tunnel ever, coming out of a giftshop!! I'm trying to coordinate a trip for the event out there this summer, because I'm totally sick of waiting!!

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:53 PM

Funny this topic comes up. I was thinking of starting a new topic asking about the Silver Comet, since there is a SLIGHT chance I may get out to ride it this summer. I have heard little about it and wondered what the ride was like.

Another ride that doesn't get much mention is Twisted Sisters, but from what I've heard, this is because it seems to be about the only CCI dud (keep in mind I'm using this term to compare it to other CCI coasters - CCI's "dud" is probably better than most Summers/Dinn coasters).

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:18 PM
How about Zeus & Cyclops at Big Chief Carts & Coasters?

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:19 PM

...finding it hard to believe I haven't already crossed the TMI Line with Cheetah! A fantastic out-n-back beginning, a low-profile, high-banked turnaround at breakneck speed, the a series of bunny hops leads you into the figure-8 finale, two half-helices, first to the right, then to the left, then a nice hop onto the brakes. Most rides end there, but Cheetah has a nice grade from the brakes on the turn into the station, and it picks up some speed again...(not a LOT, but surprisingly fast considering it's AFTER the ride's "over")...

Agreeing with MooreOn (sounds strange to say that) that TS is the "unpopped kernel" in CCI's kettle o' corn...

Tremors DOES sound that good (and from the POV I've seen, LOOKS that good too). We don't get underground tunnels here for some reason, LMAO...And Timber Terror too. 2hostyl, if I've gone into Indiana, YOU can... Idaho, granted, is another story, and I think your wisdom may be showing But what's with you're telling me the Boss isn't that good. (Well, I think I'm a *little* less interested in comfort than you are, and I absolutely LOVE a good double-down, non-Vegas style).

edit: IB is a definite for '02, Big Chief's sometime soon...

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:53 PM

First off, anyone who even remotely is considering a trip to the Northwest to ride Silverwood's CCIs should feel free to write me. Ronald Anderson, Cmiesen and I are planning a trip late June, so get on board! I am constantly up in arms about how little acknowledgement these coasters get, yet it does make sense in the grand scope of things. It isn't every day that people purposefully make a trip to Northern Idaho. (not unless you like pointy white hats and funny crosses~Jeremy stay away!!!!!:)) Seriously though, I have had the distinct pleasure of riding both Timber Terror and Tremors, and they are truly wonderful rides. Both are radically different (duh) and each has special traits. Timber Terror has a killer double up and a shocking (because you can't see it coming) drop coming into the turnaround and coming out of it as well. It is an air machine, and worth the trip alone. It also has the most aggressive final helix I have ever experienced with HUGE laterals and another major surprise at the very end. A great ride. Tremors is altogether different. It is very fast, has a more violent ride, and it spends more time running really wild, but it also (sadly) lacks a spark that could have made it a truly great, if not perfect, coaster. Don't get me wrong, I do really enjoy it, and it is my 8 year olds favorite coaster, but it just doesn't quite do it for me. Going into the tunnels, it is much too loud. I swear I had to hold my ears on every ride after the first one. I know this is an unavoidable fact, but jeez....bigtime loudness! Still a great ride, and great drops into the last tunnel, but kind of (dare I say?) uninspired. You have to ride it to know, and it is just my opinion, but I am sticking to it. Still, I love going to Silverwood, and I can see it on my calendar for late June, so write and let's go!

I haven't ridden it, but the Boss seems to get no big write ups...why? Cheetah too....why?
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Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:09 AM

Funny thing is that the only two CCI's that I have ridden are on the "forgotten list".

Sky Princess: Okay, its small and could not really be considered a Thrill machine. However, I do happen to disagree with those who INSIST on calling this a "kiddie" coaster. I even have a problem with labeling this a Jr. or a Family coaster (considering that little Joust next door to SP is considered a Family coaster). For its size, SP is a very good ride. The train really seems to pick up some speed coming off the lift and into the first drop, the turn around is fast (and has some laterals), and there is some air time in there before the train hits the final helix. Like said above... for thrill seeking families.

Great White: What better location for a coaster than along the beach. While not having as much air time as I would have expected, this surely is a fun coaster. The visuals are great, especially on a moon lit night when all you see from the top of the lift is the dimly lit Atlantic in front of your... like you are going off into no where. The start is great too... a fast drop out of the station and under the pier. At night time, this "tunnel" is extremly dark. Some have said that that his is one of CCI's "worst" coasters. I guess that simply means that a bad coaster for CCI is still a very good coaster.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:28 AM

I think the Great White is one of the best woodies in operation. I doubt if their is any type of coaster on the Ocean side of the boardwalk that actually competes with it for sheer speed and size. Only the Morey's would invest in such a grand attraction and be able to maintain it to top standards. If there is any other woddie in Jersey thats better, someone pipe up.

The Sky Princess is also not a junior coaster. Its not very high, but with full sized trains, it is a great ride for 'growing up'. If that ride was built in any other park, it would be one of their most popular rides, as all family memebers could enjoy it.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:59 AM

rollergator said:
2hostyl, if I've gone into Indiana, YOU can... Idaho, granted, is another story, and I think your wisdom may be showing But what's with you're telling me the Boss isn't that good. "

Huh? I'm confused. I've *been* to Indiana. Heck, I lived in Indiana for about a year (a little place called Kokomo...). Actually, having lived there is precisely *why* I was in no hurry to go back (They actually hosted a KKK rally in the city. I wanted to go but...:))

Anyway, BOSS was not *bad* in anyway shape or form. In fact, it was rather intense and long. There just was not any of those *moments* that jumped out at me; e.g. Kumba's 0g roll, the 3rd hill on S:ROS, the massive ejector air on Mean Streak (sorry, made the last one up :)). And the double down isnt *really* a double down IMO because there is such a long stretch b/w drops. When I think of double down, I think of the turnaround on Wild One or that one spot on Phantoms Revenge.
lata,
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Wednesday, March 13, 2002 5:32 AM

Agent Johnson:

on Great White and maintenance: When we were there last August, while I was taking my first ride on GW, my wife (who likes me to make the first run on any coaster by myself to see how rough it is) got to talking to one of the maintence men for the coaster. I came in on the end of the conversation, but I remember him talking something about them installing some steel devices underneath the rails that can be adjusted (i.e. tightened or loosened) too maintain the guage of the track. Also, upon hearing we were from PA, he had stated that they were planning a visit to Hersheypark to see how that park maintains their wooden coasters. It was also nice to hear him not talking about "the coaster", but rather "my coaster"... the workers took pride in their jobs. Just backing up what you said about the maintenance at Morey's.

On Sky Princess: Finally someone who agrees that this coaster is not a Junior. At 2000 feet in length and about 50 feet in height, and (as you said) full size trains, I consider it a wooden coaster that everyone can enjoy. Actually, with the way it takes its turn around, it may even be too much for some of your less than thrill seeking family members. As you said, in any other park, it would be very popular... but for DW's customers (many who are too short for SP's height requirement), it maintains only an average popularity. Oh well, keeps the lines good and short. Nice thing is that is is located very near the one eating place... great for us "big kids" to go off to while the others are eating lunch.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2002 5:47 AM
You dont hear to much about Hurricane Category 5 hear to much either. Fun little ride IMO
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Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:01 AM

my bad, 2hostyl....guess that'll adversely affect my assist:turnover ratio...;)

The old KKK "situation" is precisely why I thought ID would be a poor choice of destinations...but, if I'm going out to WA to visit Jill's family, I'd have to find a way to get a day or two "off", and Silverwood DOES have a very interesting coaster line-up (I love coastory - that's coaster history for those who actually read my posts)...

That Zero-G roll in Kumba is definitely what keeps me coming back...dropping into it like that is way more intense than the ones taken at elevation...of course, the Big K also has the sweet helix finish. Stay to the right, and you can touch the ground...if you have a reach as good as mine and as little sense as me...

But back to the CCI's...any park with 2 or more of those has to be on my list...I'll brave the "unfriendlies" for a short time

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