Flashback and Psyclone Magic Mountain

I think this is a good idea. Of Course we will have to see what goes into the empty space of Psyclone and what they do in the Flashback area in the next few years

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In a slight transition, who here thinks that Flashback, if indeed it is going for sure, will be sent to another locale or will it go to the scrap heap? I know I've heard a bazillion times that it's a crappy ride so noone need explain that. Just wondering if anyone holds out any hope (for lack of a better word) for a future with Flashback in it.

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Flashback is going to MiA!!!

^ Careful, people may accuse you of being another one of Coasterkid's aliases. ;) These are dangerous times. :)

I rode Flashback when it was Z-Force at SFGAm. I kinda liked the ride, but I always felt it might make a good candidate for an indoor ride - being that is was relatively compact. I guess 20 years later, the ride must be in fairly bad shape.

Good or bad, I don't think there are many coasters similar to Flashback/Z-Force. If only for that reason, perhaps worth saving?

According to RCDB, it is one of a kind.

It would be a great ride with lap-bars....When I went on it in the late 90s it seemed fine, although I was a kid and could handle the pain :]

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Lee Grant said:
Your suggestions for things to add are pretty interesting, but don't you think they need more exciting and popular flat rides like a Rip Tide type or a smaller version of maXair (or is that what you refered to as swing around ride?) I know they want to do that "family oriented" thing, but there's already a whole section full of little rides. What Magic Mountian needs are bigger and better flat rides. It worked for Cedar Fair, didn't it? I definitely disagree with the Scooby Doo idea though because the park already houses two themes: Looney Toons and Superheros. They need to work with that instead of opening another theme. *** Edited 1/21/2007 3:23:25 AM UTC by Lee Grant***

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The Swing Around is a ride that is made by Huss, and it's at Six Flags Great America. It's quite popular. It's called Ricochet. I think the problem right now is that there are only enough rides for teenagers to do in one day. So, why add big thrill rides right now. Flying Bobs, and Orbiter are in the thrill ride category though. The park has the thrill junky experience with all the roller coasters in the park. In my opinion, it needs something more for the family also.

Our Rip Tide (Huss Top Spin) does have a line, but the line is very small. Do people really like this ride that much? I don't know. It's mostly walk-on unless the Iron Wolf has a longer line which isn't that much. For MaxAir, I do like that ride somewhat, but I think KMG makes a better ride. It may not be 50 people, but it's better (in my opinion). It's called the Fireball. You can make that Scooby-Doo ride anything. This is one of those laser rides in the dark that I was talking about. It could the Looney Tunes one, like down in Fiesta Texas.

All good news, they are finally starting to clean up the park. Removing Flashback clears the way for Wiggles World expansion, and removing Psyclone clears up valuable real estate for another large coaster install in a bit. With Freefall hopefully exiting the park soon, it's good to see the park focusing on cleaning up for the future. I'm not too upset that Metro has been SBNO for so long (must be in competition with Disney's Peoplemover/Rocket rods) so if they get that operational over the next year or that would take care of their last non-operational attraction at the park, assuming Thrillshot is thrown out this year too.

Did SFMM's managment change this year? Or did they finally get the budget from the head office to remove the rides?

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DBJ said:With Freefall hopefully exiting the park soon,

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Hate to take the thread in a different direction, but why hopefully? Freefalls are so intimidating and fun. Plus tell me another ride where you can balance pennies on your knees and watch them float. They're all disappearing and I completely understand why, as they're old tech and alot of people prefer a Giant Drop or an S&S, but I don't see why people are celebrating the fact. People treat a classic ride - and the best thing of its kind for a long time - like an SLC.

I agree with Vincent.

Why would you want to see the ride go? When I was at the park in november, the ride had a decent line.

I thought the ride was listed for sale last year, and it was only a matter of time before it left the park. Another forum post I read on another site claims it has been sold, so I'm in the acceptance stage now. It's going away whether or not I would prefer it to stay or not.

Couldn't you say that Superman=Freefall somewhat? Why have both? I know they are a little different, but I can't see why they should keep both.

I think the next coaster should go where Viper sits. If Shockwave at SFGAm decayed that fast, I imagine that ride is doing the same thing. When I was there, that ride didn't even open with the park. Put in flats by Psyclone or a new kids area.

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Ilovthevu' said:
Couldn't you say that Superman=Freefall somewhat? Why have both? I know they are a little different, but I can't see why they should keep both.

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They aren't just a little different. They're really different. One is a launched shuttle coaster, the other is a really old school drop tower ride. Aside from that, why shouldn't they keep both? Six Flags Over Texas has Superman Tower of Power and Wildcatter; Cedar Point has Power Tower and Demon Drop; and Six Flags Over Georgia (up until recently) HAD Freefall and Acrophobia.

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I think the next coaster should go where Viper sits. If Shockwave at SFGAm decayed that fast, I imagine that ride is doing the same thing. When I was there, that ride didn't even open with the park. Put in flats by Psyclone or a new kids area.

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There was no decay involved with ShockWave. The ride was horribly designed with terrible transitions which led to its low popularity. Viper came about after Arrow managed to smooth things out following ShockWave and Great American Scream Machine. I'm not saying Viper is just a step below from being a B&M in terms of transitions, what I'm saying is that the resulting ride is much more improved in regards to tracking compared to its predecessors. In addition, Viper is still a popular ride that manages to pull in long wait times -- a feat, considering it's a dinosaur compared to the newer and bigger rides.

http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_5065363

I know most people who have ridden it say it sux, but I'm happy that there is hope yet for Flashback. *** Edited 1/23/2007 12:36:25 PM UTC by Jason Hammond***

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Mamoosh said:
Thank you for your recent e-mail and kind words regarding Six Flags Magic Mountain. We appreciate you taking the time to write.

Translastion: We always get a good laugh when people with absolutely zero experience or know-how of running an amusement park think they have the answers.

Your recommendations for the park have been forwarded to the appropriate management for review...

Translastion:We thought the folks in corporate needed a good laugh too.

Thanks again and spread the word that Six Flags Magic Mountain is open for business!

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*** Edited 1/22/2007 3:16:53 PM UTC by Mamoosh***

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Am I the only one that finds great humor in this???

So they're officially sticking with the story of the lifeguards as to why Flashback was closed the past couple of years? If that were the case, why wouldn't it be able to run in the evening after the waterpark had closed, even if it's only for a few hours? :)

Psyclone won't be missed. ;) Buh-bye!

As far as Flashback I am slightly bummed that it always eluded me as well. I wanted just one painful ride. JUST one. ;)

Oh well. Scrap metal it is!

-Tina

"After it's dismantled, Flashback may be re-assembled somewhere else at Magic Mountain, but it won't be operating this year, Carpenter said. Psyclone will be smashed and scrapped within four weeks, she said."

Hmm.. perhaps put Flashback in Psyclone's old spot with 2008's budget money? At least it'll be faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from those lifeguards. :)