Flashback and Psyclone Magic Mountain

Friday, January 19, 2007 11:23 PM
The reason you don't post more is because you are way oversensitive. You read right over me saying you opinion is *justified*, right to a legitimate question. I could care less that your opinion is different than mine, but remember, we are *all* entitled to opinions, even opinions regarding someone else's opinion.
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Friday, January 19, 2007 11:58 PM
I know most people don't like Psyclone, even though I enjoyed it, but was Flashback really that bad? I never got a chance to ride it, but it seems like a pretty cool ride to me.

In their places, the park should put some flat rides. Maybe they FINALLY realized they don't have enough...in fact, they don't have any good flat rides besides Thrill Shot, which you have to pay to get on.

So will Magic Mountain ever get their "Amusement Park With Most Roller Coasters" title back now that they're possibly getting rid of 2 coasters?

Also, I agree with a lot of what Bobcoaster had to say. Wooden coasters are loads of fun for most people, Magic Mountain is VERY unbalanced wood vs. steel wise, and the park's management is definitely headed in the wrong direction. I do have to disagree with removing Riddler though for a couple of reasons: 1) Riddler is a record holder: tallest, fastest, longest stand-up coaster on Earth. 2) It's still a popular coaster at the park. 3) Stand-up coasters aren't being built anymore, so we need to hold on to the ones that are up.

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:13 AM
Some of you really need to think before you type:

We don't even know yet what is going to replace
Psyclone or Flashback yet. How can anyone say their going in the wrong direction when you don't even know what that direction is?

It's the previous management that has added steel after steel coaster. Shapiro has yet to add a single attraction to SFMM. He's removing 2 coasters that are no longer popular, and that provide painful rides, period. That's why Bobcoaster's assumption makes no sense.

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:13 AM

DWeaver said:
Losing two can only improve their lineup as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, that's not even logical. That's like having a bunch of coins, losing some of the rusty ones, and then saying to have more money. No matter how you look at it, you lost value.
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Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:29 AM
^ By the same *token*....if you only throw out pennies, you've increased the average value of the remaining coins in your pocket...

I'll never get a shot at that stupid Flashback, it seems, but given the number of days I've spent *looking* at that thing, it's probably for the best that it become scrap metal and stop tormenting me. ;)

Psyclone, LOL, Williams Grove's version was more...stable.

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:37 AM
"Good to see the fictitious coaster war with CP finally over."

Uh... Methinks they took them out to put in 2-3 more NEW coasters....

SFMM is their strongest park when it comes to coasters, no matter what you have to say about it being garbage every time I visit the place is clean.

I love the place.

I don't think the customer service is good, but honestly Knott's Berry Farm and Cedar Point had horrible customer service as well - it's a trademark of any theme park besides Disney.

I mean c'mon, Cedar Point releases Top Thrill Dragster, and Six Flags lets loose Kingda Ka.

The war isn't over, this is just part of the battleplan.

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:39 AM
"Why not remove Riddler or something else instead of Psyclone?"


WHAAAAA??!?!?!??!

Riddler is one of the best ones at SFMM!!!!!!!!!


Sorry had to reply to this one.

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:52 AM
LOL

They should also take out Top Thrill Dragster at Cedar Point and replace it with a ferris wheel.

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:53 AM

Nicalapegus said:
I mean c'mon, Cedar Point releases Top Thrill Dragster, and Six Flags lets loose Kingda Ka.

That was OLD Six Flags. This is NEW Six Flags.

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:54 AM
Thank you Gator.

Pysclone and Flashback are most certainly of the *penny* variety. Two less crappy coasters to ride at SFMM, hopefully making way for something much better.

* Who am I kidding, a large pile of dirt is much better than either of those rides.

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:55 AM
I agree, no one really liked them anyway. I would rather have 2 more exciting coasters instead of Pysclone and Flashback anyday.
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Saturday, January 20, 2007 1:05 AM
Obviously Shapiro (who's a big wooden coaster fan by the way) took a ride on Psyclone, and agreed with most of us that the ride isn't worth the wood it's made from. Flashback is a no brainer. It would have been removed last year if the park had the money to do so.

Bottom line, 17 coasters was far more than *this* park could handle, and the right two are being removed.

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 1:18 AM
ok on my trip to MM last summer me and my juvinile friends had a fancy of throwing off stuff the top of rides like opening salsa from MCdonalds from the morning on superman.

We rode Psyclone one day after we stole around 10 packets of matches and threw a few packs off the top. If I would of known this then i would of lit one and saved Six Flags some money.

It was a good thing to see it go.

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 1:20 AM
Won't they recycle the steel from Flashback? Can't they make money from that? I know this happens with other steel structures and it pays for much, if not all of the demolition. If this is the case then why didn't they rip it out years ago?
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Saturday, January 20, 2007 2:44 AM
Well, there go the wooden B&M trains...
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Saturday, January 20, 2007 3:25 AM

DWeaver said:


How can anyone say their going in the wrong direction when you don't even know what that direction is?


No, Magic Mountain's management has been in the pits for a while, and it's obvious Shapiro could really care less. You would think with Magic Mountain being the more important park under his management, it would be something he'd actually try to take care of. Instead, he's spent the past year flaunting rumors around about how he wanted to sell it. Honestly, I really wonder what would happen if MM had been sold to PARC with the other 7 parks. But who knows? Maybe now that it's still stuck with SF, in another year, they might give Colossus the boot and DWeaver can finally have his dream of a park without woodies.


Nicalapegus said:


Uh... Methinks they took them out to put in 2-3 more NEW coasters...


Magic Mountain will not do another 3 coaster release again. After the Deja vu, X, Goliath Jr. disaster, I doubt if they EVER open even 2 coasters in the same year.

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 3:57 AM
Lee Grant said:

"Maybe now that it's still stuck with SF, in another year, they might give Colossus the boot and DWeaver can finally have his dream of a park without woodies".

Oh God don't get my hopes up. ;)

The thought of never getting my arse kicked ever again on Psyclone *And* Colossus is too much to process right now.

Then again, I've never been one to want a wooden coaster just for the sake of having one. I want a good one. I'm perfectly happy visiting a park like IOA or BGE without a single wooden coaster.

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:49 AM

Audioslaved said:
ok on my trip to MM last summer me and my juvinile friends had a fancy of throwing off stuff the top of rides like opening salsa from MCdonalds from the morning on superman.

We rode Psyclone one day after we stole around 10 packets of matches and threw a few packs off the top. If I would of known this then i would of lit one and saved Six Flags some money.

It was a good thing to see it go.


Wow, you don't make coaster enthusiasts look immature.... (also, its "my juv*E*nile friends and I") Download the new Firefox, it comes with pretty red underlines.

I agree with the many who say, great move and I'm impressed with them on this decision. I'm shocked to be honest, but impressed. *** Edited 1/20/2007 9:52:26 AM UTC by P18***

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:00 AM

Lee Grant said:


No, Magic Mountain's management has been in the pits for a while, and it's obvious Shapiro could really care less. You would think with Magic Mountain being the more important park under his management, it would be something he'd actually try to take care of. Instead, he's spent the past year flaunting rumors around about how he wanted to sell it.


Did you ever think that the floating rumors of giving SFMM the boot was a scare-tactic for the management? Perhaps Shapiro thinks that they have potential so he doesn't want to get rid of them, but they needed a wake-up call. Essentially fighting for their jobs?

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:06 AM
Flashback I can see getting the boot, but Psyclone minus it's lousy trains, is actually a decent ride.
I rode it once in 2002 and actually thought it was fun.

It costs them more money per year to run Superman, I'd pull that out before Psyclone.

I thought Freefall was out the door, too. It's still listed.

They have too many big-kids rides.
They need a little more variety for familes.

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