Enthusiast ban list is real
But Vater, what im trying to say is that we are really no different than a private party paying to rent out these rides.
You know what, its not worth it because ive come to learn that coaster enthusiast boards have just become places to point fingers at people.
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"AHHH!! Oh wait, we didnt drop yet"
Starting to get the picture?
-CO
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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.
*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya 10/14/2003 2:30:09 PM ***
I can point to 3 different railroad crossings I know of that got crossing gates AFTER people were killed at them. That is the society we still live in.
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Charles Nungester.
It's official Lesourdsville Lake is closed for 2003
Don't get me wrong, I understand the curiosity, but how would your life be so much more fulfilled by knowing who's on the list?
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Goccvp1
But I also agree with you to a point. Most of the enthusiasts who have been around a while know who these people are, or at least the ones who are notorious for having caused trouble for some time.
-Tina
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Gimme speed, height, airtime and plenty of LAUNCH!!!
*** This post was edited by coasterqueenTRN 10/14/2003 2:42:23 PM ***
Mamoosh said:
I think this list should be published. YMMV.
So do I. In Dublin Ireland, where I live, those convicted of Littering have their names and addresses published in the newspapers. Name and shame.
Regards,
Richard
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http://www.bannister.org/coasters/
I see your point butit's still the parks choice to have the events. Tell me that CP would rent out the rides for any other group like they do for CoasterMania? Open from what, 6:30 am til 1am the following day plus lunch for a little more then the cost of a standard ticket?
Or how about a well-loved park in southern Indiana that had two nights of ERT, one morning of ERT, one breakfast, two dinners, a behind the scenes walkback and one full day in the park for (if I remember correctly) LESS than a one day admission to the park?
These parks, when they had respect for our groups as a whole, bent over backwards for enthusiasts and what did some of them do? They broke practically every rule in the book. And to make things worse, one of them died as a result. And as such, the parks came to the grim realization that we were taking advantage of them and RISKING THEIR PARK'S EXISTENCE and everything that they have worked for.
I fervently support the parks and the clubs in keeping ban lists, it is something that was a long time coming. I saw some behavior at SRM2k2 that was crazy and insane and I told the people about it at the time. What I should have done is also notify the management of such. But, I didn't want to be a 'tattletail' at my first event. Knowing what we all know now, I will not hesitate one second to report in-DUH-viduals to park operations personnel. And in fact, have pointed out people during my trips to other parks this summer.
It is sad, very sad, that it has come to this...but unfortunately certain people forced the parks' hand and they called their bluff knowing they they hold all the ACEs. (pun intended)
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--George H
Currency Tracking Experiment...Where's George.com
I think of it along the same lines as some newspapers that print the names of "johns" who are arrested for hiring prostitution, or those court cases you hear of occasionally where a drunk driver is made to place a sign on his car so everyone knows he was guilty of that, or a slumlord is made to live in his own rundown building.
I can understand if some of you don't feel the way I do, and I understand if a park or club chooses to keep their list private as well.
mOOSH
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*** This post was edited by Mamoosh 10/14/2003 2:53:15 PM ***
-Tina
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Gimme speed, height, airtime and plenty of LAUNCH!!!
1) Court records have always been public record unless specifically sealed by a judge
2) Amusement parks are almost always private property
So unless someone was banned for committing a specific crime, publishing a list runs into all kinds of ugly legal gray areas. Are they guilty and convicted of some criminal act or guilty of breaking park regulations on private property? Does any park need to spend money on related litigation when some loser squeals, "Yewwww defaaaamed meeee," or should they just spend it on attractions we can all enjoy?
After all, your local mall has a list of 'banned' people too. They've never told you who they are and it doesn't really matter either.
-CO
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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.
*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya 10/14/2003 3:07:45 PM ***
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"I go out at 3 o' clock for a quart of milk and come home to my son treating his body like an amusement park!" - Estelle Costanza
mOOSH
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New holiday & all-occasion cards on sale thru Oct 21st. 2004 Wood Coaster Calendar still available. All at S&D Greetings.
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janfrederick said:
Hmmm...I should tell my wife that I'm on that mall list...;)------------------
Bwhahaha, that's a funny idea!"Sorry, dear, but I'm banned from all craft shows and shoe stores..."
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*blows off the dust*
Did you even read this thread?
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--Maddie--
What do I Listen-To?
Hot stuff.
CoasterPreservation, did you even read Jeff's post? He didn't say it was HIS list. And, did you read Paula's response (the words I quoted above)? You have a park representative confirming what Jeff has said and you still question his validity?
Unreal.
I believe that for the 'list' to have the most impact, more and more people would need to be made aware of the fact that the 'list' even exists. If the purpose is to cause people to behave properly at an enthusiast event, then it would seem to be more effective for people to relate to 'so and so' that was on the list and is now missing from the function, rather than 'so and so' not just being at the event. In another words, the list has more of an impact if people can relate to someone that they either know, or recognized.
Just my thoughts...
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Fever
I really enjoy the Simpsons. It's just a shame that I am starting to LOOK like Homer.
CoasterPreservation said:
This is bunch of b.s.n, what proof does Jeff have? If parks were to ban people from the premisses it would only be with good reason like going into a dangerous area, or trying to do something stupid. I bet I am on Jeff's List, but I dont care b/c I aint done anything wrong. So what if I can't join CoasterBuzz Club.------------------
* Smacks head in disbelief.....
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- "I used to be in the audio/visual club, but I was kicked out because of my views on Vietnam........and I was stealing projectors" - Homer Simpson
^A term used for a guy before he has a sex change?
CoasterPreservation said:
premisses
Then you can save 20 bucks to put towards your next purchase of a defunct coaster.
So what if I can't join CoasterBuzz Club.
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-Mike Buscema
'No matter how skilled the designer is, every time we push the envelope we learn new things about coaster design.' --Dana Morgan
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