Enthusiast ban list is real

How many of us now do not even wear club or coaster shirts or clothes so as not to be seen to be part of the enthusiast community?

Jim

I still wear mine. In fact I wear my CoasterBuzz hoodie everywhere. (But thats because it is The warmest sweatshirt I think I have ever owned!)

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JWolg said:
How many of us now do not even wear club or coaster shirts or clothes so as not to be seen to be part of the enthusiast community?

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I quit wearing that stuff a couple years ago.

I got drooled on one too many times, and decided it was better to not be a target. Ack.

*** This post was edited by chris 10/14/2003 12:12:31 PM ***

It's too bad that something like this has become necessary, but if people aren't willing to abide by the rules after this many warnings, the bannings are certainly warranted. I just wish they weren't causing more trouble for the parks by requiring the time and effort to generate and enforce the lists.

I think this list should be published. YMMV.

mOOSH

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Is the list going to be made public?

Also, I dont see how enthusiast events are a gift to us. Enthusiasts are a private party that pay money to rent out the rides past/before closing. The parks make money from the events, so how should we be thankful for them? How are enthusiast events different from private events?

I agree with mOOSH.

I have a list of banned customers for my business. I applaud the parks for doing the same thing.

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Mamoosh said:
I think this list should be published. YMMV.

mOOSH

Interesting. Except for the "gossipy" nature if something like that was done, it might be a good idea. It would perhaps send a more clear message.

Of course, we will probably get a better of idea who is on the list when certain people aren't seen at parks/events anymore, but who knows!

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Jeff said:
It's very sad that it has come to this, but there is a real live ban list now of enthusiasts that have been banned from certain parks.

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Who is banned, and from which parks and clubs?

Was there some sort of 'secret amusement society' meeting?

I'm not trying to be a complete smart-@ss, but why not take the mystery out of it and just spell it out?

I think it would be a lot more effective to just say something like 'We (parks, clubs) aren't letting CoasterTool #1 play anymore because ____ (fill in the blank).'

It *is* a real shame and complete embarrassment that it's come to this, but if people are so lame that they need what is and isn't appropriate behavior at an amusement park (for God's sake) spelled out for them, then it's time to do so.

EDIT (Just saw Peabody's post)- Publishing the list and who made it up would actually get rid of all the gossip and speculation.

*** This post was edited by chris 10/14/2003 12:56:28 PM ***

i just think it's sad all around.

grown people acting like this.

on the plus side...

look at it this way...that's one more available hotel room for future events, one less person in line in front of those of us who choose to follow the rules....

thanks folks, for making my waits shorter!

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*** This post was edited by LadyLegolasGreenleaf 10/14/2003 12:57:52 PM ***

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Blitzjade said:
Is the list going to be made public?

Also, I dont see how enthusiast events are a gift to us. Enthusiasts are a private party that pay money to rent out the rides past/before closing. The parks make money from the events, so how should we be thankful for them? How are enthusiast events different from private events?

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Because you don't see buyouts getting walkbacks, extra grease on the rails, trims off trips, lights out trips and late hours. More importantly, I'm sure that a buyout would cost a lot more than the total of the admissions that parks get from enthusiast events.

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"Those who know don't talk and those who talk don't know." -Jeff

The proper parties that are currently involved in this new list process are all that need to be. The involvement of any third parties could only lead to bad things down the road if these people are identified publicly. That's all we need right now - an enthusiasts' vigilante group, if you will, going around making sure these folks don't act up again.

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ShiveringTim said:

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That's all we need right now - an enthusiasts' vigilante group, if you will, going around making sure these folks don't act up again.

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We already have that, Scott, it's called RRC. ;-)

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Mike Miller - trying to inject a little levity into a serious, heavy topic

I thought that was the 'Guardian Acers.'

I disagree that the list should be published. If you don't know the difference between following and breaking park rules, you deserve to be on the list. I have to believe that those who have been banned, though they may not admit it, know that they violated the rules in some way.

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CoastaPlaya said:
Most if not all of these issues can be accessed via the search function.

Tina, care to email me?

-'Playa

No prob Playa. :-) Look for one soon. ;-)

And yes, I do think these lists should be published officially, just to clear up any gossip and rumors out there.

If it's never published by the parks or clubs then so be it. I understand and respect their decisions.

I just think everyone out there should know who these people are. I mean, they show no respect when they put themselves or others at risk by breaking safety rules.

One shows no respect when he has harrassed and threatened so many people, especially me and another chick when we are at parks. Why should we show any respect for these type of people?

I don't think vigilant acts against these people would be appropriate.......it will just bring you down to their level, especially with the one who I dealt with personally.

The best thing to do with people like this is ignore them and let them continue to hang themselves by their own stupidity and lack of remorse. It's just sad this certain person decided to try to drag the forums, club members, and parks down with him with his psycho threats and delusions.... thinking these would care about his personal problems.

All it did was alienate the places and people who banned him and made him look like the guilty murderer/threatening psychopath/lawsuit-happy lunatic he really is.

Sorry Jeff, didn't mean to get carried away there. I will shut up now. ;-)

-Tina

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*** This post was edited by coasterqueenTRN 10/14/2003 2:22:10 PM ***

In a way, I am glad Paula posted that said people were caught red handed and that all rulebreakers are subject to banishment not just enthusiast.

Ive stated many times that rule breaking is occuring everywhere, Op's, GP and enthusiast.

Chuck, who has seen a ton of employee missconduct at events and very little by riders.

P.S. HW is a park I've never seen bad employee behavior, I was just bringing it up as to being a major bad example and have seen it at many other parks including one belonging to a chain dear to this site..

Charles Nungester.
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ApolloAndy, thanks for the response!

Im not talking about an entire park buyout. I am just saying that enthusiasts are a private party that pay to rents certain rides out after the park has closed. The park gets money, people get their rides, everyones happy.

Yes, some parks LOVE(d) their enthusiast events enough to put more grease on the rails, but most corporate parks do not do this, although walkbacks are sometimes done by parks.

Also, whats so difficult about asking for a park to turn out the lights if your paying for ride time? I really just dont get the whole "Enthusiast Events are a gift" thing.

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Blitzjade -- Theme parks will continue to thrive whether or not they decide to eliminate enthusiast events. We are by no means entitled to get them. Based on that, you could say that these events are a 'gift' or 'privilege.'

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-Mike Buscema

'No matter how skilled the designer is, every time we push the envelope we learn new things about coaster design.' --Dana Morgan
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*** This post was edited by Vater 10/14/2003 2:07:51 PM ***

I think a lot of people are missing the point that has been brought up over and over. Parks dont need enthusiasts. Most enthusiasts have season passes and are just there to ride, they usually dont spend money in the gift shops and such. So basically, they aren't making any money off the enthusiasts.

As for events, they are a gift. The parks dont need to hold the events. What do the parks get out of it? They probably just about break even after paying employees to work overtime and such. So what does the park get out of an event? Nothing really, they are just appeasing the enthusiasts. But they are realizing that they dont need to do that anymore. Especially when there are those who are breaking the rules. Why have a liability on their hands when its not necessary? Even if parks do have events, most of the enthusiasts who attend them end up complaining anyways. For example, look at Solace last year. Everyone was complaining about them stapling. Well...if a park is nice enough to host an event, people shouldn't complain about it, they should be happy they are there.

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