Eleven Things for a Better SFGAm

And amazingly expensive..

They could do that without taking out shockwave, there is a strip of parking lot that is kinda triangular that is RIGHT next to RB and Viper (it's the bus parking lot, err well, part of it)..

Dualing RB would be probably the most amazing thing any park could do with a coaster.

I still wish SF had a steel Out-and-back the size of MForce.. I want to see SFGAm compete with Cedar Point in the Records race (SFGAm would win, considering they have much more room they can buy arround the park, whereas CPoint is basicly an island).

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I think they could probally add a 4D in with Shockwave instead of taking it out.  Shockwave is so spread out, they would have plenty of room.  I think they do really need to add another stop to the train so it stops around where it goes through the tunnel, they need to do this for sure if they are going to keep that path blocked off. A waterpark would also be a great addition to the park.   Also as for that Eagle Tent they should take out that and add more flat rides, or move Cartoon Network there and add a coaster where Cartoon Network used to be.
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Don't Fight it, Ride it, RAGING BULL!
My Top 5 Coasters:
1. Raging Bull 2.Millenium Force
3. V2 (SFGAm)
4. Viper (SFGAm)
5. Cornball Express /Raptor

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Wolf said:
Replace a Schwartzkopf Spped Racer with a dime-a-dozen Mine Train? Why?

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I would hardly call it a Speed Racer. I say they retheme it, look at some new station options. You could EASILY retheme that into a mine-train type ride.

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-Nick Catalano

http://www.thrillnetwork.com/article.php?sid=16

That's what SFGAm Needs

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ßruce said:
"Right, and this would cost how many billions of dollars? Don't you know that SF is in debt? Don't you think SFEG deserves a coaster more then SFGAm?
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Ricochet: Bouncing to you in 2002, Only at King's Dominion!
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Six Flags is neglecting their smaller parks, as SFEG. The big parks get new coasters every year, and I'm getting VERY upset!

Their last coaster was a Boomerang clone. The two most "popular" coasters are clones.

SFMM has got 4, yes, that's right, 4 new roller coasters, including Goliath, Jr. I'm just glad I'm going there in December :)

I just hope that SFEG could get a B&M hypercoaster. There is room in the park, "they" just have to take out the Pepsi Groves and extend the ride behind Island Kingdom Water Park. There is land behind the water park. The ride could be an out-and-back.

Does anyone agree with me?

Note - I know this is off the topic. But I just want people to realize that Six Flags is neglecting their smaller parks and "they" are just focusing on their big parks. If they are just adding new roller coasters at their big parks, then what's the reason to own smaller parks and doing nothing to it?

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"Duff Man Says... Ohhh Yeah!"
Current Favorite Coasters:
1)Raging Bull 2)Millennium Force 3)Medusa (SFMW) 4)Vertical Velocity (SFGAm) 5)Dueling Dragons (Ice)

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Stop smoking crack!  Leave the Whizzer alone and bring back Tidal Wave!  Get Sky Whirl back too

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People your are forgetting that there smaller parks have less room!  Like SFEG has hardly any room for a new ride, last yr. there new thing was a new show.... So stop complaining of what other parks get.  THey feel that other park(s) bigg that is is more important to increas profit.

Primer Parks has played the game to well to screw up now, give the people some credit..

They are good at what they do, and this batch of giving the big parks 1st priority is a good business move.. They are probably keeping the smaller parks just to keep the name arround...

It all comes down to the market my friends..

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Apollo15 said:
"Like SFEG has hardly any room for a new ride, last yr. there new thing was a new show...."

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And that is supposed to be great, why? I actually know several people who are getting very bored of SFEG...
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Parks for 2001: SFEG, Lakeside,Funtown USA, Palace Playland, HP,BGW,PKD,Alton Towers.

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Nick Catalano said:
It would not cost "billions", 15-20 million at the most.

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That is how much it would cost just to build your "Millennium Force type" Coaster...Geez

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Ricochet: Bouncing to you in 2002, Only at King's Dominion!

You sugest adding a bobsled. Are you aware that for 4-6 years (late 80's-early 90's) they had a bobsled? Why would they get another? It's not like it was a ride everyone loved like Tidal Wave is.

Dualing Shockwave.... please. Coasters which are built to duel/race are built that way to begin with, not added after one side is built. The only thing Shockwave needs is for Morgan turn the trains into PR style trains, except with lapbars.

Redo the train system? Isn't that more trouble than it's worth? BTW, It does go around the outside of the original park. SFGAm never modified it to go around SW Territory because if it even crossed thier mind, they knew it's more trouble than it's worth.

American Eagle, how to fix it. You say something about the queue (not query) lines. Whats wrong with them? Nothing. Some people say get rid of the tent. Why? It serves a purpose. It's a food court. The only thing that needs to be done to AE is Intamin needs to be hired to come in and restore it to it's former glory, and the trains need to have the "wings" and headrests removed. I hate the wings, you can't comfortably have one arm resting on anything no matter what you do.

Gut out all flat rides? NO! If they do that, they better replace them with the exact same model, maybe of a newer year. I would die if Triple Play and the Lobster were gone.

Oh, DON'T MESS WITH THE WHIZZER! It doesn't need retheming either. Whats wrong with it? How could you theme it? It's a trip through the woods. It's in Hometown Square, and since it's there, just pretend it's themed to Little Red Riding Hood skipping her way throught the forest. If you want it rethemed, how about the TVs show all of the WB takes on LRRH.

Now, for 11 things to make it better IMO.
1. Return Haybalyer home.
2. Put a new rotor inside Cliffhanger's building.
3. Find a new home (inside the park) for B:TR, return Tidal Wave to it's home, retheme V2 so it fits with the Yankee Harbor theme.
4. Clean the restrooms better.
5. Lower the price of EVERYTHING! Especially parking. 10 bucks is too much. It should be 5 at the most.
6. Get more workers for one thing: Undercover line agents. If they catch someone line jumping, enforce the rules, kick them out of the park!
7. Put lap bars ala PR on Shockwave.
8. Replace every Dippin' Dot stand with real ice cream, and every real ice cream stand to Dippin' Dots. That way it won't be 10:1 dippin:real, but 1:10 dippin:real. I can never find real ice cream in the park except at 2 places, Orleans Place and Funnel Cake Foundary.
9. Remove Fast Lane or whatever the stupid thing is called. If they want to do it, do it right like Disney, make it free.
10. Remove both log flumes in favor of a liquid coaster.
11. Remove Viper, put it in my backyard, complete with maintainance and ride op crews, all for free.

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Hey, SFGAm management, can I buy a couple cages of Sky Whirl?

I think SFGAM is good park right now as is.  For SFGAM to become a great park they only need do a few things.

1. Return the American Eagle to its former glory.  By removing the trim brakes.  Adding the third train to each side.  Racing the coaster all the time and maybe even turn one side backwards atleast for fright fest.  Retrack the blue side.  Also maybe get new trains without the wings and the buzz lapbars.

2. Open the bridge back up.  Many people including a lot of the GP were very mad about the bridge being closed. 

3. Landscape Shockwave a little better.  All they really need to do is add some gravel or a couple inches of dirt with sod on top of the parking lot.  It wouldn't take much work and they wouldn't have to chop up the parking lot. 

4. Redo the front entrance.  This doesn't have to be done but if they did all they really need to do is replace the chain link fence with a black iron fence.

These four things and maybe a few other little things are all SFGAM needs to be taken to the next level and become a great park. 

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Mike
Favorite Wood: Viper at SFGAM, Shivering Timbers
Favorie Steel: Magnum and Raging Bull

Forget SFGAM... build an awesome amusement park in Wis. Dells... and for the love of God, bring Tidal Wave back to the midwest.  Now I know why The Montezooma's Revenge in CA. killed someone.  This breed of coasters is dying in the U.S.  All of these shuttle loopers are being sent below the border.  C'mon... these coasters are U.S. built, they don't need green cards.  Someone call Nick at Big Chief & Tom Diehl in the Dells and tell them to go to Georgia, open up their wallets, and bring Tidal Wave to the Dells.  By the way... don't you ever, I MEAN EVER referr to that ride as Viper.  The poor ride has suffered an idenity crisis the last 6 years. 

Poon Tang Man, "...these coasters are U.S. built,..."

Nope, they are German built. Schwarzkopf shuttles are from the Schwarzkopf factory, which is in Germany.

coaster895, are you sure AE used to run 3 trains? I don't think it did, it only has 1 transfer track, which would make you think it only had 2 trains it's whole life. (if you don't know where the transfer track is, it's after the turnaround going out of the station, right before the lift hill)

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Hey, SFGAm management, can I buy a couple cages of Sky Whirl?

Whizzer can stay ONLY as long as long as it doesnt cost too much to maintain it. WHEN it goes (notice WHEN not IF) it sould be replaced by NOTHING BUT a mine-train type ride. NOT a 4-D, NOT a flying coaster and NOT even a CCI (as this coming from a woodie freak!). There needs to be a medium thrill type coaster around.

SCREW THE IDEA OF MESSING WITH SHOCKWAVE! I love that ride and STILL do not see what people complain about. The only time I hit my head on the ride is when the freaking management people have the ride come to almost a complete stop on the mid-course brake run they my head slams into the headrest. But the side to side action is negligible. Furthermore, there is no reason to landscape under Shockwave unless they are going to extend the park out that way. There is no ROI motivation for doing so. The rest of the park is so pretty that people who are influenced by landscaping are already pleased with the park.

Batman DOES fit into the Yanke Harbor theme. Gotham City (New York City) *IS* a "Yankee Harbor". 'Nuff said!

Now, if they wanted to do ANYTHING to improve the park, they would take the Orleans area and make it more "Mardi Gras"-like and add a bunch of gaudy, bright colored flats rides like the HUSS "Land of the Giants" type rides.
lata,
jeremy
--who notes that while V2, B:TR & Deja Vu names are criticized, Neither Iron Wolf, ShockWave, Whizzer, nor Demon have names that fit into the themeing!

How stupid do you think a dueling Raging Bull would look? It's fine the way it is, why waste you're money on that if you can just add new, completly different rides. And a dueling Shockwave would look just as dumb, if not dumber...:)

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Iron Wolf: Can you stand it?

Lapbars on Shockwave would be good for next year. It would bring at least half of the people who would come for a new coaster (of those that only come for the new coasters, that is) and it would well worth the PR. The seats can change the ride!

SFGAm needs to add something small for next year. A HUSS ride would be great (topspin). Or get Tidal Wave Back.

Moving B:TR would be a good thing, since the theming on B:TR is a bit "out of date" at the moment..

Possibly add a "Big City" themed area...

Roaring Rapids or whatever needs to be redone.. that Universal Studio's ride is so amazing, I wish that SFGAm would look at that and double the size with similar theming.. although it would require all WB stuff..

SFGAm needs to expand a bit into their loney-toons rights, thats something that can make some of the rides a bit better.. People like Disney because they can relate to the rides.. how else could a dark ride like WTP have a 2 hour wait on a daily basis??

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I would add more flat rides, get a ferris wheel in there, as well as another water and family ride, and reprofile Shockwave and Eagle.

But the BIG thing that park NEEDS is a waterpark!!!!

I wouldnt touch anything else.

This is more of a wish list than anything. I thing that the park is running great. Improvements could be made, but you could say that about every park. I am in totaly agreement about an overhaul of the Orleans area. Fresh paint to the whole area and a few new flats would be great. The Cajun removal will probably happen in the offseason. Hopefully we will see something to replace it. The Eagle tent does take up a lot of room, and could be redesigned to free up a bunch of room for a couple of flats. Eagle doesn't generate a line as it once did. Restore the coaster to it's old form, a soaring/racing giant.
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American Eagle did at one time run three trains, though not for long. They had some block problems I think. There are 3 trains, one gets overhauled every year. Anyway, I want them to bring back the outdoor water show or animal shows they used to have back near the picnic area, where Cartoon Network is now. Wilderness theater that was the name. Whizzer should stay as should Shockwave. They could do with some rework on Shockwave and AE to make more enjoyable, along with race the damn RACING coaster. They do need a flying coaster from B&M though somewhere.

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