Eisner Annouces New Animal Kingdom Coaster

All of what Vertigo was true, except for the Space Mountain redo still being a rumor and not confirmed.

I don't buy the other crap being flung around here :) Come on all, say it with me! "Those who know....."

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*** This post was edited by Peabody 3/26/2003 4:11:19 PM ***

C'mon, Peabody...why are you always the pessimist...look at his screen name...he is THE MOLE... ;) ;) With a name like that you have to believe him! ;)

/me wondering if the screen name "Lemon Chill Guy" is taken... ;)

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What, no CPnut joke? ;)

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Speaking of CPnut, he popped up on my IM the other day saying "Hi! This is CPNut from CoasterBuzz!" What a moron... For those who don't know, check out his 'amazing' website, "The Point of Cedars" It's a good laugh.

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Ah, I have contacts, but their not very deep, so take it with a grain of salt, but more than if I just thought it up. Take this as an example, Disney built the DLP RnR not because they like Vekoma, but to get themselves out of their buying contract. Three launch coasters.

This dosn't mean they won't buy a Vekoma, nor does this mean that it won't be launched. It's just what I've heard. And there is one thing I know for certain, B&M is not building this coaster. S&S Arrow, Intamin, and Vekoma are in the process right now of talking with Disney, but consider this. Durring part of the ride, the trains go backwards, and since Indiana Jones in DLP does this and is made by Intamin, I'm guessing Intamin as the track builder. S&S is a close second since they are very innovative, then the last one on my list is Vekoma since they don't seem likely to build a reverser track to make the coaster go backwards.

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"Take this as an example, Disney built the DLP RnR not because they like Vekoma, but to get themselves out of their buying contract. Three launch coasters."

Yes, that makes perfect business sense. I don't know why I didn't see it sooner.

Or, it could be that they built a clone because it's insanely popular, reliable, and umm, cheaper?

The trains for the Temple of Peril ride at DLP were turned around -- and maybe modified slightly. It doesn't take a rocket scientist of company to turn their trains around.

Whatever Disney does, don't expect it to be off-the-shelf anything but track. Even the LSM coaster trains were modified, if not completely designed, by Disney.

Accept that you have no clue about this and move on.

*** This post was edited by Chernabog 3/26/2003 5:26:28 PM ***

What is all of this contract crap about? I thought we established there are no contracts. Dazed and confused :(

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Ansley; when I rode RNEC in 2001, It was (and still is) the smoothest Arrow-style looper I've ever been on. Of course, I've been riding Shcok Wave every year for years, so take that for what it's worth (still, I don't recall any headbanging).

If this ride goes backwards, then I see no reason to discount S&S, Intamin, or Vekoma. Intamin seems to have already done something like this. Vekoma is no stranger to fancy track work, what with that tilt coaster and all (though their reputation from how long it took to get that up and running might work against them). S&S/Arrow might actually be the least likely, in terms of experience, but I'll bet that Mr. Cheketts (SP?) would love to try something like that. All in all, though, I'd look at Intamin and Vekoma, with an emphasis on Vekoma. They haven't worked with S&S ever, and haven't done work (that we know of) with Arrow in quite some time. Vekoma and Intamin have both recently given them good products, but Vekomas seem to have been somewhat more successful, or at least less hassle. Not to say that I want it to be Vekoma, but that's just how it looks from here.

Of course, this is all idle speculation on my part. I don't claim to actually know even as much as the Dippin' Dots guy...

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I was under the impression that this thing would be announced sometime in April. If thats the case, the manufacturer and ride specs should be complete. If there still is talk as the mole claims I dont see this thing becoming a reality until much later.

Why is RNRC in Florida held in such high regard apart from the launch and first inversion the rest of the ride is dull and rough. My girlfriend who is only 5 foot came off screaming that it was the worst rollercoaster she had ever been on, it smacked her head around so much and then she spent the rest of the day complaining she had a headache. I would say out of all the major coasters in Florida I would probabaly say I enjoyed it the least.

Of course I didn't find quite think it was as bad as her, mainly because I've ridden SM at DLP so I know a coaster can be a lot rougher.

If you are going to put in a £100 million ride, why would you put in a second rate coaster company's product, when you know basically if the ride is going to have inversions within 5 years it is going to be painful and customer satisfaction isn't going to be as high?

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(SF)Great American said:

S&S/Arrow might actually be the least likely, in terms of experience, but I'll bet that Mr. Cheketts (SP?) would love to try something like that. All in all, though, I'd look at Intamin and Vekoma, with an emphasis on Vekoma. They haven't worked with S&S ever, and haven't done work (that we know of) with Arrow in quite some time.

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Disney never working with S&S, huh? Perhaps you've forgotten this?
lata, jeremy
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Well, S&S certainly has more *experience* with Shot towers/drops than with coasters. I think Stan is probably a bit of a *maverick* to work with Disney on a coaster....but that doesn't mean I'm agin it...;)

Why remove Vekoma from my list? It's not that the coaster will just run backwards, but will start going forwards, be attacked by a Yetti, then go backwards before going forwards again.

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Ah, no, 2Hostyl, I can't say that I had forgotten that, as I had never been aware of it in the first place. My bad.

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Mole - I seriously doubt trains will "start going forwards, be attacked by a Yetti, then go backwards before going forwards again."

Do you have any idea how expensive yettis are these days?

Moosh - would name his yetti Betty, if he could afford one.

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But how do you *sex* a yeti....I mean, a male yeti named Betty would take quite a bit of teasing in the playground....even worse than a Boy named Sue...;)

Now as far as reversing direction of travel, that's reminiscent of either Hammerhead Stall or Typhoon SeaCoaster...not impossible at all, but likely *expensive* when dealing with a coaster train...HHS was a shuttle IIRC. Of course, the Mouse is loaded when it comes to ca$h....

Finally, how can we claim to be at the TOP of the food chain....isn't that mosquitoes...;)

It wouldn't really take that much technology to turn a coaster around, just space. Have the coaster slow to almost a standstill, and then move it onto a piece of track on a turntable. (If you picture a railroad turntable, you'll know what I mean) Somehow lock the train into place, turn the track 180 degrees, and voila. :)

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rollergator said:

Finally, how can we claim to be at the TOP of the food chain....isn't that mosquitoes...;)

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Hey, I'm not a frickin' scientist or anything here, Gator!

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I guess Gravity Max merits a mention since we're on the topic of a *turntable*....sure, the specifics of operation would be different, but the principles of locking the train into position while roating (or lowering for GM) into position should be very transferrable...;)

All this of course is (Eric) Idle speculation at this point...;)

Bass, Stephanie is the resident biologist, I just figured since they eat us and we don't (normally) eat them, fleas and mosquitoes should rank higher than us...LOL.
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*** This post was edited by rollergator 3/27/2003 4:45:01 PM ***

When every one talks about the trains going backwards, are they actually going to turn the train around? Or could it possibly be that they are going to stop the train, and then use LIMs to move the train over the same track "backwards" and then make it move forward? If that's the case, i could see just about any company that has any experience with LIMs builiding this coaster.
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