Eisner Annouces New Animal Kingdom Coaster

Because wood is a little unpredictable and Disney doesn't like unpredictable.
Seeing how the guests have troubles with the relatively simple seatbelts on Test Track, I dont think its whould be a good idea to mix the Intamin seat belts. Yup, 6 trains for TTD. How many trains does Space Mountain at DL has? 12? With 12 people in each. 24 people per train is the minimum for Disney if you are talking about 5 or 6 trains operation. They even modified stock Vekoma LSM Coasters so they can 5 trains if needed!
Sorry to say but on screamscape.com there is news about how the track will most likeky be vekoma. Not that it is a really bad thing, I just hoped they have chosen a different company and that most coaster enthusiats don't like vekoma. Then again, these are possibilities and so it may not be vekoma.

http://screamscape.com/html/walt_disney_world.html

Go down to animal kingdom and look for the date 3/24
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Guys, I doubt it's a Vekoma. Disney had a 3 coaster deal with them that's now over. I'm saying Intamin.

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I did'nt know that disney had a 3 coaster deal. Thanks Mole. I hope it's intamin but then I hope it's B&M. I know there is no possibilty that B&M will be building it, I just wanted to say that because it will be cool to see another custom B&M. Anyway, If it is intamin then it would be very cool because all thier coasters are custom and unique.
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The Master Plan of WDW calls for 7 gated parks not including the water parks. There is a lot left to be done.
I don't mean to sound like a know-it-all here, but there is no such thing as a "three-coaster deal." If Disney built one Vekoma coaster and decided that the ride (or the company) didn't work out as planned, they wouldn't be obligated to build two more rides by that company. Disney, of all companies, would not put themselves in that kind of potentially-troublesome position.

If a theme park is interested in building a new ride, they usually take the ride concept and bid it out to a number of companies. Whatever company comes forth with the abilty to turn the ride from concept into reality and at a reasonable price is usually the company that gets the job. Its not like Disney said "We want an Intamin coaster because we don't have any." Chances are, they want an indoor coaster (if that is indeed what the new SK ride is), and they'll bid the project out to companies that have proven themselves to be able to provide that type of ride system.

Besides, what is so wrong with Vekoma? I don't hear too many bad things about Rock N Roller Coaster! Does anyone really think that Disney will build a hyper coaster with SROS-style ejector airtime?

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Gotta agree with Rob here. All those "park X has a # coaster deal with *manufacturer*" rumors are just that, rumor.

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Fine then, but I'm placing my bets on Intamin due to Disney's happyness with Cali Screamin'.

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Cali Screamin? The Intamin coaster they were so happy with they had to add sprinklers to the LIMs on the launch so they wouldn't overheat and cause the ride to shut down?

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Yep Moosh, that one. ;)

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Yeah, that one. And their LSM btw. ;p

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Compare that to their major Florida Vekoma, which works like a charm, is smooth, and is insanely popular (around the country, I might add).

I wouldn't be surprised if any new Disney coaster was Vekoma. I just hope it lives up to Rock'N'RollerCoaster standards.

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I think Disney should do a little more research and NOT go with Vekoma. First, SM in Paris is extremely rough. RnRC in Paris is slighlty rough too, and last time I was in Fl RnRC had that typical low-quaility Vekoma vibration. I would think that Disney would go with a higer quality coaster company.

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I really DO believe there are such things as *multi-coaster deals*, but only n a limited fashion. For instance, since SF wanted *several* GIB's at once, I'd be very unwilling to believe that SFI paid 4 times the price of one of them for the whole set. The likelihood of having a deal *over time*, I agree that that is VERY unlikely indeed.

Back to the topic of AK and Disney, (SF)GA has a good point. Vekoma and the Mouse have had a pretty successful relationship, and while Disney is WAY more *tight-lipped* about such issues, I think Mickey is pretty happy. Does that it'll necessarily be a Vekoma - not by a long shot. But I know MY business is more likely to go to someone who I've done business with before...assuming I was satisfied...;)

bill, NOT easy to please, LOL
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First, SM in Paris is extremely rough.

Really? I didn't think so. It wasn't B&M smooth, but I thought it was a fun ride, not too headbangy. The loop on Indiana Jones (which was running backwards when I rode it), now that was jarring. Not rough so much, but fairly intense. Fun, too, even with jet lag!

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Mole, it's easy to see that you made that up because Disney has built more than three coaster with Vekoma:

1992-Casey Jr.

1992-Big Thunder Mountain

1993-Gadget's Go Coaster

1995-Gadget's Go Coaster

1995-Space Mountain

1996-Barnstormer

1999-Rock & Rollercoaster

2001-Flounder's Flying Fish Coaster

2002-Rock & Rollercoaster

2005-Space Mountain

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rollergator said:
I really DO believe there are such things as *multi-coaster deals*, but only n a limited fashion. For instance, since SF wanted *several* GIB's at once, I'd be very unwilling to believe that SFI paid 4 times the price of one of them for the whole set. The likelihood of having a deal *over time*, I agree that that is VERY unlikely indeed.

I think it's actually a little more expansive than even that. I think, despite what the so-called "People Who Know" say, that there *are* multi-coaster contracts....well sort of. I think that they have *options* built in where if they are satified with a product, they can purchace more at a reduced cost. But I agree, that unless the products were purchased simultaneously (GIBs, Bat-Flight) it is very doubtfull that a company would *lock* themselves into a coaster without knowing that it worked well.

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Mole, it's easy to see that you made that up because Disney has built more than three coaster with Vekoma:

1992-Casey Jr.

1992-Big Thunder Mountain

1993-Gadget's Go Coaster

1995-Gadget's Go Coaster

1995-Space Mountain

1996-Barnstormer

1999-Rock & Rollercoaster

2001-Flounder's Flying Fish Coaster

2002-Rock & Rollercoaster

2005-Space Mountain



Lets dance.

Casey Jr was a re-hab
Big Thunder was a Vekoma
Go-Coaster & Barnstormer, I don' know
Both Rock'n'Rollercoasters were part of this contract.
So was the first Space Mountain.
Space Mountain at HDL is RUMORED to have a Vekoma, but Intamin, Arrow, and the old WDW track is also been talked about.

I can say that Disney had a contract to build 3 coasters with Vekoma after Space. After the delays in RnR at MGM and the progressing roughness of the one at DLP, I doubt that Vekoma will do this coaster.

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And you know there was a "contract" how? Everyone just got done explaining why its unlikely that there's a contract involved.

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