Dorney park files for a zoning request.

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:03 AM
looks like we now know where steel venom is going. Read about it here...

http://newsplusnotes.blogspot.com/2007/02/dorney-zoning-request.html

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:06 AM
When was it confirmed that Steel Venom was going to Dorney? There are plenty of rides that could need height variances for that particular spot.
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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:13 AM
Its "not" confirmed that steel venom is going to dorney, but look at the ordinance that they want. Two towers right next to each-other with high parts.

It just seems like that fits the blueprint of steel venom.

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:15 AM
It could, but it could also be for another type of coaster with a large first hill and another large hill after that. Just saying there are other things to consider since I really don't believe Steel Venom is going to Dorney.
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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:41 AM
Just remember, they originally received those two squares of zoning changes when they planned on adding a Skycoaster.

When that fell through the zoning had already passed so they had these areas just sitting there. I'd think that SkyScraper would have passed though one of the squares during it's cycle due to its height.

Anyway, now they want to move them. It doesn't say exactly what direction each will move, but I'd bet some money that it's further apart from one another.

Mike

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:51 AM
SV is going to DP...all the evidence points to that.

First we have GL getting rid of the ride,next we have the request by DP for an extension on their power grid & now this...many people refused at first to believe the rumors about XF being relocated to KI simply dismissing it as all the KI fanboys saying it was going there because,naturally they want a ride at their park & look how that ultimately turned out.

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:57 PM
I dunno. It sounds pretty circumstantial to me.
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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:03 PM
All the same, though, it could be anything? World's shortest sky ride, anyone? I'm just sayin'...

Right. Anyway, SV makes sense. Like I've said before, the park needs SOMETHING new in the lower section, so whatever it is, as long as it drives foot traffic down there, it's fine by me.

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:17 PM
I wonder why some people seem against this ride going to Dorney? This is the best evidence that we have, as far as Steel Venom's relocation. I heard from someone last summer (while I was at Dorney) that they were going to get an impulse.

This only makes sense. The plot of land is almost perfect for the thing, plus the whole pwer grid issue, and now this. And CF won't have to spend the money to buy an entirely new impulse now--and hopefully I'll finally get my credit for the thing! :) Every time I went to GL/SFWoA while the ride was there, it was closed!

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:33 PM
I'm not against SV going to Dorney. In fact, I think it would be a smart move for CF to make.

But I'm not convinced it's what's going to happen.

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:45 PM
alot smarter than moving x-flight to King's Island anyway.
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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:06 PM
It would be a smart move. A lot of people seem to want a new wooden coaster, which is the other rumor going around, but there's a lot of competition in the region for that (Hersheypark, Knoebels). Dorney seems to work best at adding things the region doesn't have (examples: Steel Force, Dominator (drop tower), in-park waterpark). This would be a perfect fit, and would be unique enough to do the job.

Plus, apparently budgets are a problem at Dorney, so I don't see the downside to this (maybe they'll even have room in the budget to add something to Wildwater Kingdom?). *** Edited 2/28/2007 7:08:40 PM UTC by Arson***

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:12 PM
People are against moving Steel Venom to Dorney because the park was originally supposed to get a GCII wood coaster in 2008. The wood coaster has been long rumored and would have been a MUCH better fit for the park, and a better use of land. Plus, Venom an Intamin... some of us Dorney people aren't thrilled about having a coaster with the level of reliability as a launch coaster.
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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:16 PM
I didn't read the exact wording of the variance, but who's to say that the 2 towers couldn't be somehow integrated with a GCII woodie?

It could be wooden coaster with steel supports. Or even wooden coaster with steel-structure-based theming similar to Ghostrider's cover over the drop to help stifle the noise.

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:35 PM
I still like the idea of Wood for Dorney, and Steel (Venom) for PCar....I think it's a better utilization of resources that does the most good for the most parks.

However, I will note that this seems to make the idea of SV going to Eastern PA *somewhat* more likely.

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:40 PM
Oh stop trying to fit the "2 towers" thing into a wooden coaster :)

Basically, from what we know:

--Dorney is getting a power upgrade
--Dorney applied for height variance for 2 tower structures
--CF is moving SV to another CF park
--SV is an impulse coaster, which has two tall spikes (towers)

So, the best guess we have to go on right now is that they are moving SV to Dorney Park.

Even if they got a GCI woodie, where would they put it? My best guess would be on the empty plot of land by Steel Force and Revolution, but the SV move seems to be a much better guess.

When it comes to "seeing what you want to see", I've been guilty myself. When I saw an overhead layout for Storm Runner, I was trying to imagine a B&M hyper. Of course, we all know that was an incorrect assumption. But at least Storm Runner was the first of its kind. We "know" what SV looks like, and the evidence seems to line up in favor of SV going to Dorney, not Dorney getting a GCI (though that would be nice, too).

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:52 PM
Just to clarify, Dorney applied to relocate two existing rectangular areas which were previously granted a height variance (for a SkyCoaster several years ago). It specifies the distance the zones are being moved, but not whether they are being moved towards each other or away, nor does it state what they are being used for. Unfortunately I think the latter is more likely and Steel Venom is coming.

On a side note, rablat5 you asked where a woodie would go? You'd be surprised what those guys at GCII can do with a little bit of land ;) . *** Edited 2/28/2007 7:53:15 PM UTC by dptalon135***

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:25 PM
I'm not ruling out the GCI coaster in the future... after all, Dorney could have had one in the works that is now going to go into a former Paramount park. Or they could get one in the future. I just see the writing on the wall for this one, assuming the variances all get approved.
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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:56 PM

dptalon135 said:
People are against moving Steel Venom to Dorney because the park was originally supposed to get a GCII wood coaster in 2008.

Source?

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:56 PM

BATWING FAN SFA said:
SV is going to DP...all the evidence points to that.

First we have GL getting rid of the ride,next we have the request by DP for an extension on their power grid & now this...


I wouldn't call that evidence. It's not putting two and two together to make four, it's putting one and one together and trying to show that it makes four. While I would never say for sure that Steel Venom isn't going to Dorney, I have reason to believe the park has plans to move in another direction in the near future.

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