Dominator trains now on site at Kings Dominion

I agree that Dominator would be a good addition to Kings Dominion. I haven't been to KD in 8 years because nothing has drawn me there. Hurler is a boring coaster, Grizzly is a neutered coaster since all those trees were ripped out for Hurler, Anaconda is aging as well as Great American Scream Machine at SFGAdv, Shockwave is well Shockwave - a stand-up TOGO, Volcano is a one-trick pony, and that really just leaves FOF and Rebel Yell. Now, these are my opinions - like them or hate them. I think Dominator could be a really nice input of sweetness to a park with a very IMO bland set of coasters.

^Erin, wait a minute, how does removing trees make a coaster neutered? That's impossible. If you were to say they threw brakes all over it, changed the layout, than I'd be with you. It's still the same exact ride.

Volcano is more than a one-trick pony. Remember it launches twice and is still a kick in the pants and very smooth? And the three heartline rolls still get me everytime.

So you haven't been to the park in eight years. That means you've never ridden Hypersonic XLC if I'm counting right (and may never get the chance), Richochet (with an extended layout, the next closest one is at Canada's Wonderland, I believe?), and The Italian Job (soon to be called something else), although you may have picked up that credit at King's Island or CW.

What about Avalanche, the only Mack bobsled in America? How about Scooby-Doo, the best woodie in the park (often)?

Do you not like flats or drop-towers? Please tell me how either Tomb Raider Firefall or Drop Zone are boring. Do you not like Sally shooters? We hit Scooby-Doo and the Haunted Mansion everytime we go because it's fun.

I'm just going on the defense because you wanted someone too:) Now if you're looking for a really fast full-circuit coaster with a traditional lift, then your right, they dont' have it and whatever they're going to call it, it will be awesome.

Intamin Fan, I genuinely appreciate your response! It's well detailed and also keeps it light and humorous.

Intamin Fan - What you said was:

I'm just going on the defense because you wanted someone too Now if you're looking for a really fast full-circuit coaster with a traditional lift, then your right, they dont' have it and whatever they're going to call it, it will be awesome.

Yeah - that is what I'm saying! :) Regarding the other items which I am glad you brought up -

I've never been interested in trying Hypersonic. It goes straight up, then it goes straight down, and it goes in a little circle. The End. The park is too far from me to get pulled by that. I live in York, PA (but lived in Baltimore through mid-2005). Why? Because houses in Maryland were too frickin expensive.

Ricochet may be great, but Hershey Park has a nice little wild mouse coaster. HP's got more pull too - Super Duper Luper, Great Bear, and Lightning Racer. If Wild Mouse coasters were a side dish accompanying entrees, then HP wins that contest for me.

I say that Grizzly is neutered because part of the greatness of that ride was the obscurity of the surrounding encompassing impenetrable tree cover. For Grizzly, it's like slapping brakes all over any other coaster. In my opinion, ripping up that tree cover neutered Grizzly. It's not the same ride, especially after dark on a cloudless night. And if they were going to put such an irreparable dent in that tree cover that was Grizzly, they could have at least given us something 10 times more impressive than Hurler.

Avalanche - isn't really a roller coaster in my opinion. That's more like a flat ride to me.

Scooby Doo was great twenty years ago when I was 11 ;-).

I like the Top Spins - i've been on the one at Great Adventure many times - and with Nitro, Runaway mine Train, Superman, Kingda Ka, and El Toro, and the tacos near El Toro, SFGAdv pulls me more than KD.

Nah, I'm not big on the drop towers. I'm actually very sensitive to heights ;-).

>> I'm just going on the defense because you wanted someone too

Much appreciated, Intamin Fan!

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Erin, how is Avalanche not a roller coaster, besides the fact that there aren't rails to run on? It operates by gravity with the highest point of the ride at the top, it has banked turns, it twists and turns (very fast at the end), it has a coupled bunch of cars. Will The Flying Turns not be a roller coaster either?

Hypersonic may not look interesting, but it still has a faster launch time from initial launch to top speed than any of the Intamins. It truly is shocking.

What I was implying with Scooby-Doo was that it's often the best running and enjoyable woodie in the park. Rebel Yell can be hit or miss because sometimes it has massive potholes, and Grizzly can be a little rough sometimes.

I remember riding Grizzly when it had the trees and not only did Hurler ruin the secluded feel, then they added Hypersonic with all of its bright lights at night.

If you're very sensitive to heights, then yeah, I definitely wouldn't recommend Drop Zone. Being close to 300ft. in the air knowing that you're going to drop at 70 mph is not everyone's cup of tea. I saw a girl punch her boyfriend for taking her on the ride, and I've also seen people kneel down and kiss the ground:) The only way my sister can deal with it is to not look down.

You said that you've been on Twister at Great Adventure many times. Well then, you really haven't been on a good Top Spin until you get on Tomb Raider Firefall, as it has an incredible program with multiple inversions (find a video on YouTube), and oh yeah, fire!

Lastly, I live in Baltimore and yes housing is getting very expensive, mostly because a lot of people from the D.C. area have been priced out of their market.

Every night I go out to my job in Timonium I run into hundreds of cars getting on to I-83 North, and I know damn well that the people from the Key Stone state work in Baltimore (or D.C.). They also tend to be some of the crazier, more agressive drivers for some reason.

But hey, I understand your reasons for not traveling down South. Look at it this way; you'll be able to get in everything you missed in one day if you do visit Doswell, and perhaps make a weekend out of it and visit Busch too.

Tree removal can neuter a coaster "experience". The Grizzly is just an average clone. But what made it exceptionally special was the atsmosphere of racing through the trees and its isolated feel. It was a mini-Beast. At least 50% of that experience has been destroyed by removing the trees on the Hurler side as well as the go kart track addition.

Kings Dominion has made 3 major errors in atmosphere since it opened. 1. Filling in Lake Charles 2. Removing the trees around Grizzly 3. Removing the Old Dominion Line. *** Edited 10/19/2007 5:54:54 PM UTC by super7****

^I still enjoy Grizzly at night myself with or without the trees....I was on the GLT forums earlier today & according to one post someone spotted some dominator track on a flatbed leaving the park so we could possibly see track begin to arrive at the park as early as perhaps this weekend.

If anyone's going to the park this weekend for the haunt just be sure to get some pics of you spot anything in the park,or the parking lot.

Intamin Fan:

I'll give that you are correct about Avalanche. I also have to admit a bit of bias in my own perspective. I knew and loved Kings Dominion back when Mount Kilimanjaro was truly majestic and about three times the size and mass it is now, when Lake Charles had water, not a puddle, and when the Grizzly was a total experience, not just a run on an aging wooden coaster. And yes, when Yogi Bear's cave delighted children constantly.

Yup, I'm one of those unlucky shmucks trudging up and down 83 every day. I am actually not one of those crazy drivers, but I know them well.

Many communities in York County are made up more of folks who work in MD, than work in PA.

I've been very eager to get back to down to BGW. I miss that place, but I'm still getting over my disappointment that the free beer has been removed from the park experience ;-).

IIRC MT. Kilimanjaro was a bayrn curve ride located partly within the mountain near the FOF midway & the mountain itself was known simply as lost world fantasy mountain.

I still remember the early days of driving to the park & seeing the mountain coming into view along i-95 even before the Eiffel tower....back then that thing was huge.

You can't be serious about thinking you saw Kilamanjaro from I-95. Kilamanjaro is still at the park and it is only about 30 feet tall.

The Lost World - now Volcano was built in 1979 and you can't see that from I-95 either. All you can see is the Eiffel Tower and Drop Zone.

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parkperson said:
You can't be serious about thinking you saw Kilamanjaro from I-95. Kilamanjaro is still at the park and it is only about 30 feet tall.

The Lost World - now Volcano was built in 1979 and you can't see that from I-95 either. All you can see is the Eiffel Tower and Drop Zone.

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I wasn't talking about the ride itself,I was talking about the mountain structure.Photos are now up of Dominator's track at KD so that pretty much confirms that they'll be installing it for the 2008 season.

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BATWING FAN SFA said:

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parkperson said:You can't be serious about thinking you saw Kilamanjaro from I-95. Kilamanjaro is still at the park and it is only about 30 feet tall. The Lost World - now Volcano was built in 1979 and you can't see that from I-95 either. All you can see is the Eiffel Tower and Drop Zone.

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I wasn't talking about the ride itself,I was talking about the mountain structure.Photos are now up of Dominator's track at KD so that pretty much confirms that they'll be installing it for the 2008 season.

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Then, Where's the photos at?

The photos can be found here www.coastercrew.com & I believe someone else also posted another thread this morning linking the photos as well.

Well, here's the press release from PRNewswire...

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DOMINATRIX Sluts it Up at Kings Dominion Memorial Day Weekend 2008

Wild Floorless Coaster to serve as Anchor to New Themed Land

DOSWELL, Va., 2007 - Kings Dominion, the Mid-Atlantic’s premier 2-in-1 theme park and waterpark, is inviting thrill-seekers to embrace their submissive side in 2008 with the debut of Dominatrix -- the sluttiest and most erotic roller coaster to bang the East Coast. Making her debut Memorial Day Weekend, this wild Floorless wench will thrill its guests into submission with its 5 leg-over-shoulder inversions, in three different exciting positions at speeds approaching 65 mph.

Brave guests begin their wild love affair just behind the Scooby Doo's Ghoster Coaster in the all-new Glory Hole City themed area. After being strapped aboard sexy floorless coaches seated four-abreast, the floor suddenly drops away and guests are sent climbing nearly 16 stories in the air before plunging in and out, in and out through a wild bush of track before jerking through a pair of unique interlocking corkscrew loops and a helix finale - a 2 minute and 30 second thrillride fantasy that guests will only want to suit up and ride AGAIN!

No less impressive than the attraction's length and size is the attention to design detail. Leather strap-ons, wooden paddles, whips, metal chains, stainless-steel handcuffs, and bamboo rods are many of the sensual props that will adorn the new roller coaster and its surrounding area. Dominatrix will immerse its guests in a world of bondage and foreplay and Kings Dominion's new commitment to world-class themed adult attractions will raise the bar in the amusement park industry!

“The addition of Dominatrix reflects our new commitment to combining world-class thrills with a fresh approach to tapping the lucrative young adult market,” said Greg Scheid, Kings Island’s vice president and general manager. “We’re looking for some real thrill seekers who are ready and willing to sit-back, horn-up, and get ready for some serious thrill-ride climaxing!”

Dominatrix will serve as an anchor to Kings Dominion's all-new themed area, Glory Hole City. Spanning nearly 6-acres adjacent to Scooby Doo's Ghoster Coaster and built on a former section of the car lot, the new park area will dazzle all self-proclaimed "Horn Dogs." Exciting retail, dining, and entertainment facilities will include the PeniSushi Bar, Spearmint Rhino Kings Dominion, Fellatio Funnel Cakes, The Bondage Factory, and NymphoNoodles. All guests must be at least 18 years of age to enter Glory Hole City and participate in its exciting attractions. All the retail and dining options of Glory Hole City are slated for a June 6th opening.

Construction is currently underway for the new park section and preparation has begun to erect Dominatrix during the upcoming long, hard, thick, and very wet winter months in preparation for an early Summer debut.

Kings Dominion is a 400-acre theme park that’s home to more than 40 rides and attractions. The park features one of the largest coaster collections on the East Coast, two children’s areas and WaterWorks, a 20-acre water playground. Located 20 miles north of Richmond, Va. and 75 miles south of Washington, D.C. Open daily during the summer; weekends in the spring and fall. For more information call (804) 876-5000 or visit KingsDominion.com.

Kings Dominion is owned and operated by Cedar Fair Entertainment Company.

Cedar Fair Entertainment Company, is a publicly traded partnership headquartered in Sandusky, Ohio. The Partnership is one of the largest regional amusement park operators in the world. Its parks are located in Ohio, California, North Carolina, Virginia / District of Columbia, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Missouri, Michigan, and Toronto, Ontario. Cedar Fair also owns and operates Star Trek: The Experience, an interactive adventure located in Las Vegas, and operates the Bonfante Gardens in Gilroy, Calif. under a management contract.

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Man, I get threatened with a ban for using a censored four letter word and you're able to write ^^ that?? I'm all one for "fun", but that was pretty inappropriate.

That both made my day and somewhat ruined it....

Kraxelridah, what in the heck where you thinking? Dude, that was defiinitely not appropriate for the people who read this site. There's a lot of young people who read and post, and many of them haven't been exposed to a lot of the stuff you mentioned, and rightfully so.

Your post has a lot of hardcore imagery in it, and it frankfully wasn't funny or appropriate at all. Now you're going to have kids (and a few adults I would imagine) going to Wikipedia or Google to find out what you're talking about.

Oh God. A little satire never hurt anybody, especially here. There's nothing in that post that anybody here doesn't already know about or will find out eventually on their own later in life anyway. Loosten up a little and don't take yourself so seriously. It was a joke and if you were offended, my bad.

I wasn't personally offended, but I think your decision to post it might have been ill-advised.

It was funny, though. :)

You see kraxleridah, you're making assumptions that everyone knows about what you talked about. Will some people find out later in life about these things? Of course they will--or in some cases not at all-- but my whole point was that you should let adults discover these things when the time is appropriate and if it is appropriate for them.

Read your post back again and you'll realize that you are trying to get people to think visually. You might as well have posted a link to a hardcore pornographic site. What's the differrence right?

Am I offended or do I need to loosen up a bit? Absolutely not. There's a huge difference between how I might talk off of this site, and what I say when I post here. Part of it is what we agreed to when we signed up for the Terms of Service, and the other part is realizing that there's a wide demographic and not everyone wants to be inundated with such imagery.