CP on the lake - CoasterBuzz

Oh I know Moosh, was just reafirming my point.

Edit: Appears it was on the lake side.

What Coaster went over the water? I don't see any in these old postcards.

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*** This post was edited by MagnumForce 2/4/2003 4:24:54 PM ***

I don't believe it'd be possible to build a ride on the lake, and here's why. The Core of Engineers controls what goes on over the water ways. So even if CP owns part of the lake, they'd still have to get approval from the Core of Engineers, and according to my dad, that wouldn't happen. I don't imagine we'll be seeing a ride over the lake any time soon. Who knows though, maybe we will see some giant ride out over Lake Erie

*** This post was edited by Atrace 2/4/2003 4:28:22 PM ***

Brent - how can you be sure by the picture unless you know where the person taking it was standing. Depending on what end of the coaster it was taken at it could appear to be either.

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Atrace...

it is US Army Corps of Engineers (note the spelling) and here is a link to their page on "Wetlands and Waterways Regulation and Permitting" My parents had to deal with them when they wanted to expand their dock at their old house.

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*** This post was edited by redman822 2/4/2003 4:30:52 PM ***

Moosh I meant it was a shot across the water while the phtographer was on the land. Think of a picture of Batman at Six Flags Ohio from across the lake.

Evidently it was wrong anyway as the postcards prove me wrong. Don't know what I remember seeing.

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*** This post was edited by MagnumForce 2/4/2003 4:37:01 PM ***

Here we go again........There is plenty of room left on the penisula. This is just one of those "Cedar Point is Running Out of Room" topics in disguise.

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Not really, jk. The issue is not "is CP out of room?" but "can they build into the water if they wanted to?" Two different issues.

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This is closely related to it. One of the main reasons a person would ask if CP can build into the water is because they think there is no more room to build on land. You may not agree with me, but that's what the intention is. I've talked to many people before on the space issue and they always bring up: "Can they build out on Lake Erie?"
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The storms on Lake Erie, it being the shallowest, are devastating.

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Agreed, jk park.

We all know CP is not out of space, but nowhere in the original post was a lack of space insinuated. I interpreted the question posed as "Can the park [regardless of how much free space is on the peninsula] build into the lake *if* they wanted to?" Simple question.

The park once had a boardwalk and a water-side coaster. I think it would be nice if, someday, they rebuilt a part of their history...sort of like the "Old Kennywood" portion of that park.

If this has been rehashed before it was a topic I didn't follow. However it seems the answer has already been given [yes on the bay, no one the lake] and so perhaps its time to move on.

Moosh

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*** This post was edited by Mamoosh 2/4/2003 5:43:13 PM ***

Am I the only one who remembers what happened to the beach walk the winter of 1988? This picture doesn't show the worst of it, but the water and ice made a pretty serious mess of everything, right up to the fences around Magnum.

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Wow, thanks for the pic, Jeff. Isn't WT even further towards the lake? I haven't ridden it yet...what have they done to protect the ride if this happens again?

Moosh - apologizing if that has been asked and answered before.

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I don't think that the lake freezing would be a huge problem. I saw this show on Tech TV called "The Tech Of:" and they showed a bridge (don't remember the name of it) which was built in a river with glaciers and they had special footings with steel wrapped around them and they cut throught the ice.

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That bridge was engineered to break up the ice. Are you gonna do that for every single footer of the ride?

Moosh: WT is very, very far from the water's edge (even more than usual as Erie is at the low end of its depth cycle). The back edge of the electrical building probably isn't more than 20 feet from where the fence used to be. It's also about six feet above the sand.

Aside from being cost-prohibitive, there's no reason to build over the lake. The bay would make more sense. ;) Just kidding. Cedar Point does not have a space problem(TM).

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Thanks, Jeff.

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Why does everyone feel the need to create useless topics because they're bored? Couldn't you be doing something useful instead? Get outside and shovel some snow(where available) if you're that bored.

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*** This post was edited by Colonel Sanders 2/4/2003 7:05:06 PM ***

Col Sanders - if you thought the topic was useless why open it and post to it? Someone have a gun to your hear today?

I've enjoyed this discussion and have learned a thing or two.

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Because I felt like it. I also learned a thing or two. But that doesn't change my oppinion on how much this topic is of use to anyone.

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So you speak on behalf of everyone here that this topic is useless? Wow, you sure got some clout around here. :)

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Jeff said:

Cedar Point does not have a space problem.
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Thank you Jeff. That makes two of us! :-)
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