Coaster Choice Award Winners

I'm happy with the results Moosh as long as Gosford Park doesn't win anything, especially Best Capacity. :)

-Danny

But Moosh, that's my point. Who is to say that it's undeserving? You? Me?

People complain about Mitch's poll, and his is about as scientific as you're going to find, and mine is a popularity contest. You're right, either way, people will find something to complain about.

Keep the tears coming, Danny boy.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com - Sillynonsense.com
"The world rotates to The Ultra-Heavy Beat!" - KMFDM

I like you Jeff, because I always know what to expect from you. :)

-Danny

For me, what makes Mitch's poll more *scientific* is that the voters by and large are more *well-traveled*, and have a wider array of experiences to draw from. I wouldn't have voted in either poll if I hadn't experienced a decent percentage of the "nominees". Does that mean MY selections are more valid....not by a long shot. Especially if you *consider the source*, LOL....;)
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Hey look, gator finally posted a TR...;)

Mitch's poll is my favorite to look at only because you get a pretty complete list of every coaster out there and you can see from voter's choices of the "best" to the "worst". For some reason, I always like to see the bottom of the list first (remember the "Big Bad Wooden Coaster Club"?). Grizzly, Hercules, Flashback, Viper,... and I have a pretty high interest and appreciation for bad coasters as well. I must just be in the "bad" tastes department, lol.

-Danny
*** This post was edited by Koaster King 4/2/2003 11:35:48 AM ***

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Jeff said:
Cram it up your pie hole, Danny. You're the biggest crybaby of them all, especially where Cedar Point is concerned.

Hey Jeff, I honestly think that the results were sabatoged. And I am willing to back this up (If I get kicked off the site, then Im sorry you feel that way, but this is a free speech country)

1)Most of the people who signed up for this site are from the midwest. What park is the biggest for coasters in the midwest? Cedar Point.

2)I have noticed over the years that a lot of topics in this forum are about CP. This shows me that CP is the hot park in this forum. Knowing that very few people can travel long distances, they will vote for their home park

Those are my reasons that I think that the poll was sabotaged. Now, onto something else:

Saying that one person is a crybaby just because they are voicing their opinion is unbecoming of a webmaster. I have noticed over the years that I have been on this site that many times you have kicked someone off the site for saying something against CP (Mainly me several times just b/c I was stating my thoughts on CP) But just because someone doesnt agree with your viewpoint doesnt mean its the end of the world. Just let it go.

Sorry Jeff, I had to get it off my shoulders.

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SOB_TOM said:

(If I get kicked off the site, then Im sorry you feel that way, but this is a free speech country)

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Yes, but it's not necessarily a free speech forum...and I agree with that. If you come to my house and say crap that I don't want to hear - I'm making you leave. If this was my forum, I'd be even more of a "moderating nazi" than anyone around here is.

With that said, I wouldn't expect someone to get banned for stating an opinion. I've never seen it happen and if it did, everyone in this thread would be gone.

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Now Tom you do have a few valid points but also it is jeffs site and it being sabotaged it wasn't. I voted for Xcelorator just because it looks so awsome.
There may be a lot of members on here from the areas surrounding CP but it shouldn't degrade like this. It was a poll, big deal.

CP being a hot park here yeah it is. So is PKI its always got a bunch of topics. PKI didnt sweep crap either. Cedar point does do a good job when it comes to things. Lets all just relax.

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Craig the Coaster Freak said:
About the whole 4:1 ratio MF over S:ROS thing...

Don't forget that a lot of people in Mitch's poll purposely put MF as their least favortie ride only to "sabotage" its ranking. It is pretty difficult to sabotage this poll as you can only vote once...Just a thought...

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C'mon now. S:RoS beat MF head to head in Mitch's poll 22-7-1 (2002). And yet here (as mentioned) MF won by almost a 4-1 ratio. There has to be more than a few ballot stuffers causing this kind of discrepancy.

And the way Mitch's poll works, ranking a coaster like MF low is going to have very little impact on it's final place (because of the very few head to head outcomes you can change with just one vote).

(To clarify: I don't really care about the actual results, I'm just wondering why there's such a big discrepancy in the results).

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*** This post was edited by ApolloAndy 4/2/2003 8:41:56 PM ***

In terms of MM's capacity, does that mean parkwide number of people per hour, or how well operations runs each ride? MM has a ton of coasters, many of which are run poorly, but that still probably adds up to more total pph than, say IOA, even when it's running like a well oiled machine.

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SOB_TOM said:

1)Most of the people who signed up for this site are from the midwest. What park is the biggest for coasters in the midwest? Cedar Point.

2)I have noticed over the years that a lot of topics in this forum are about CP. This shows me that CP is the hot park in this forum. Knowing that very few people can travel long distances, they will vote for their home park

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Yet Xcelerator beat WT twice in the polls. I think that alone devalues any argument about CP bias in the poll. And the fact that Mean Streak wasn't nominated for best wood coaster. ;)

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I know what you're saying AA, but if I had never been on any of the coasters nominated and I wanted to vote anyways, I would vote for the biggest (MF) or coolest (X... same goes for Best New Coaster and Xcelerator) one nominated. Only four parks were represented by that single poll and I'm sure there were quite a few who had only been on one, two, or none of the above.

I can see the point now where the poll really is nothing to argue over, but of course it's a popularity contest even over a *name* (we should have been comparing to the People's Choice Awards and not the Oscars! ;)). I don't mind and most of it was pretty fun, just like the PCA.

My Dollywood bias is always so frustrating. ;)

-Danny, doesn't care either, but trying to help out
*** This post was edited by Koaster King 4/2/2003 8:56:55 PM ***

IoA runs like a well-oiled machine? I must be going to a different park than you, AA...;). The one I go to seems to have a lot of trouble with dispatch times, but then again I tend not to go on the busiest days. But, they *do* have the benefit of having Beemers, which helps. But the main problems with IoA's capacity are not enough attractions to really spread the crowds, and a heavy dose of *tourists*...."What do you mean, *I* can't bring MY stuff onto the ride"...;)

As far as MM is concerned, ya gotta remember that Flashback and X really bring down the pph...;)

There's a LOT of things involved in capacity, and that is the one topic which pulls me into the "CP fanboy" group. If only other parks saw the light on this issue....never happen.
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Dr. Thrill IS my family practitioner
Hey look, gator finally posted a TR...;)

Bill, you know as well as I do that the Wild Adventures capacity is near perfection! ;)

-Danny
*** This post was edited by Koaster King 4/2/2003 9:09:57 PM ***

Tom: Most of what I have to say has been covered. Regarding Danny, if you were a regular participant, you know I enjoy giving him a hard time.

If you would have read the awards page, you'd see that the "slant" of the poll is not skewed toward Ohio, and Xcelerator's wins certainly support that theory.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com - Sillynonsense.com
"The world rotates to The Ultra-Heavy Beat!" - KMFDM

O.K. Jeff, so the demographic here is Ohio and California. ;)

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Based solely on number of posts, I'd say Ohio and....Florida.

And Danny is right...WA has capacity that is absolutely FINE for the number of guests...I'll *never* complain about walking on to the front seat of *any* CCI coaster...:)
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Dr. Thrill IS my family practitioner
Hey look, gator finally posted a TR...;)

Not even Sky Princess? ;)

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If at first don't succeed, find out if the loser gets anything.

It is biased. 60 - 80% of the regular people that post on here think that CP is the one. The results speak for themselves.

I love CP, and visit at least once a season for several days. I just think that there are other parks that are just as good or better than CP for what they do. I am unbiased when it comes to judging parks.

Millenium Force is my favorite Steel coaster, but I have yet to ride X. That to me is the much more revolutionary ride system. Since I haven't ridden I can't say whether it is better or not. I do know that of the coasters I have ridden that Nitro was a very close 2nd to Millennium Force, but that wasn't mentioned at all in the "Coaster Choice" awards.

As Jeff wrote, "It's democracy in action, bragging rights were at stake." Bragging rights for what? Democracy? Have you read the Terms Of Service? ;)

There is no way that CP should have won for best food. Hey I love TGI Fridays too, but that hardly qualifies as an in park restaurant. ;)

Jeff also states, "If you would have read the awards page, you'd see that the "slant" of the poll is not skewed toward Ohio, and Xcelerator's wins certainly support that theory." Its a related park. Cedar Fair. Is it all to win a bigger share of CP's advertising budget? ;)

I know that you are pro Cedar Fair, and that you don't like the Six Flags chain. I to am not a big Six Flags fan. Sure they are dirty, most of the flatrides are down, but damn they have some great coasters. Thats what I am a fan of some great coasters.

I don't care if I have to see some trash laying around waiting in a quene to ride a good coaster. I just don't buy the overprised drinks, and I leave to eat at a close by fast food restaurant. Oh well. No big deal.

What won as website of the year? Of course another CP website. Go figure!

In other words what I am saying to sum it up is that the "Coaster Choice" awards are just a bunch of bulls**t to show the sponsors that their money is well spent advertising on Coasterbuzz. Why it may not make you rich it does defray the cost of running the site. There is never democracy when there is money motivation.

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Coaster Fantom said:
It is biased. 60 - 80% of the regular people that post on here think that CP is the one. The results speak for themselves.

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Then why did Xcelerator beat Wicked Twister in two categories? I just don't see what in those awards, besides the food thing would cause anyone to think that everyone is biased towards CP.
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The Trip: CP, SFWoA, PKI, KW, HW, IB, SFGAm, MiA and LeSourdsville too.
8 Days- 10 parks. May 2003