Cedar Point '07 Project

Hmm... Vekoma apparently makes a modified suspended family coaster called a "splash party" similar in concept to setpoint's roller soaker.

For the love of.......its an intamin!!!! LOL

I am really starting to think that it is an aquatrax and the one that exists does have 4-rail track, 3-rail track, and 2-rail track. It also looks to be family friendly AND a fun ride.

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Pete said:
CP is getting more into theming. Look at the picture of Hurricane Hannah's on Pointbuzz. Also, Castaway Bay is a beautiful themed water park. I do think the theming on the new ride will be fairly extensive.

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Agreed! *** Edited 5/9/2006 3:28:46 PM UTC by GothamJ***

Brian Noble said it better than I did.

Yes...there are lots of "family rides", but there are few family COASTERS that a child less than 48" can ride, and not many rides that are thrilling for adults and at the same time are tame enough for kids that don't like the extremeness of rides like Gemini, Magnum and even Blue Streak.. That is my definition of family ride, one that caters to both.

The only coasters that both adults and children 46" can ride are Disaster Transport and Iron Dragon. All others are for 48" or taller. There was a reason we didn't take my son to CP until he hit that all important 48" mark.

You can please all of the people some of the time

You can please some of the people all of the time

You cant please all of the people all of the time

Give me an example of a coaster at another park where the height limit is below 48" and is thrilling for the entire family.

I couldn't wait to get my family to CP. It took until 2004 to do it, when my daughter had just turned 4 and my son was only 1 1/2. We actually went up Columbus Day weekend for TWO days and had an absolute blast. There were plenty of rides that my daughter could go on then, and enough to keep my son happy in between naps. Yes, the highlight WAS the ride on WWL but it didn't make the whole weekend. I had more fun watching my kids enjoy their first trip ever to CP so I wasn't worried about what I got to ride. We even enjoyed just watching TTD take off, then took my girl for a ride on the Himalaya(she's 44" now, two more inches to go til ID and DT). We went back TWO more times last season and will definitly be there that many times this year. My son has cracked 36" which opens up things like the Scrambler, Woodstock Express and Red Baron. The best part about it is that we spent a lot of time riding, not standing in line. Troika, Calypso, Himalaya, any of the car rides, all were available to us with short wait times. That's critical when you have kids that small who don't really like to wait much. Last year I finally got to ride MF and WT because my parents went with us. I hadn't been to CP with my parents in 20 years. With the $9.95 price for them and my kids it was one of the best times I have had at CP since my season pass/single no kids days.

Yes, I am looking forward to riding the big rides with my children, but I still had no problem finding things for my family to do at CP, and we went to exactly zero shows. We'd rather ride! :)

Tom

^^GothamJ, the height requirement on Jack Rabbit at Kennywood last year was 36". That is a GREAT old coaster with some nice double down airtime, my daughter absolutly loved it. Knoebels has Twister and Phoenix which ar 42", Hershey has Comet and Superdooperlooper which are fairly exciting and 42".

Just a few that I can think of that are fairly good under 48"

Tom

Matt, I loved that entry too (Keep 'em moving). I love the picture that was used too. Here's the link: http://imagineerebirth.blogspot.com/

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LdScotsman said:
^^GothamJ, the height requirement on Jack Rabbit at Kennywood last year was 36". That is a GREAT old coaster with some nice double down airtime, my daughter absolutly loved it. Knoebels has Twister and Phoenix which ar 42", Hershey has Comet and Superdooperlooper which are fairly exciting and 42".

Just a few that I can think of that are fairly good under 48"

Tom

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Ok i guess your right there, but do you think those height limits would be the same if any of those coasters were at cedar point? Im sure the Jack Rabbit would have those orange lap bars by now.

GothamJ, I can name two off the top of my head. Both Mad Mouses at MiA and Dorney.

Zach's Zoomer is also fun with pops of airtime. Then there is the Beaverland Mine Ride at Geauga Lake which surprised the heck outta me.

The mouses both have a 48" height requirement, but those smaller can ride with an adult.

I'm sure if I had time to visit specific park sites, I could find more.

Note, Cedar Point does not have one coaster that is listed at 48" or accompanied by an adult.

I realize there are a lot of other rides younger kids can go on. And there are a ton of rides for kids over 48" that could be considered "family" rides (especially to a typical 15-30 year old).

But the fact remains that Cedar Point would make more ROI from another "family" coaster than they would from a thrill ride if only because it will draw those parents(and grandparents!) with children who do not meet the height restrictions of the other coasters.

Dont get me wrong, I love the newer wild mouse rides. Richochet was probably one of my favorite coasters when I went PKD last year. Something like Curse of DarKastle at BGW(E?) would be awsome. I think I rode that more times than Alpy last year and I am a die-hard extreme coaster fan. But i do understand balance. I guess im being misunderstood, I am not at all saying cedar point couldnt use any of those. What I am saying is the ride being built right now isnt one of those. Assuming that there is only one ride being built.

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Give me an example of a coaster at another park where the height limit is below 48" and is thrilling for the entire family.

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In addition to those mentioned, I'll include Expedition Everest---unlike most Disney coasters, it's got a few good "roller coaster" moments--the backwards portion is surprisingly fun, and the drop out of the cave is healthy one. Height limit is 44". Everest is a ride that teens will find worth waiting for, but many younger kids are able to ride as well. It may be the very best example of those that I've been on.

I still get a kick out of the various Space Mountains, but it helps that they are in the dark. They are either 44 or 40, I don't recall off the top of my head. Matterhorn's not to shabby either.

The Beastie/Fairly Odd Parents installations at Paramount parks are good examples, similar to Zach's Zoomer at MiA.

Those medium-small vekoma coasters are surprisingly fun, too: Woodstock, Gadget's Go, and Goofy's Barnstormer.

But, really, one of the best examples of family-friendly yet thrilling rides are not coasters, they are log flumes. Like the one CP just tore out. For whatever reason, most kids find them more accessible than coasters. I know mine surely did. My son had been on Splash Mountain/DL, Timber Mountain Log Ride, and Whitewater Landing all long before his first "grown-up" coaster, which was Big Thunder Mountain/WDW.

The construction signs definitely point to some sort of theming element for this attraction. The "back up bronco" comment really sets the tone for whatever this ride will be. I think an interactive Americana/Western themed coaster would be awesome! I still have an inkling that it will have some sort of switchtrack where the ride will travel backwards, maybe as part of the ride's story or whatnot (hence the "we're going in a whole new direction"). Now the Intamin track throws me off a little bit, but I think an Aquatrax ride that everybody can enjoy would be really cool, and a great addition to the park. CP has plenty of giant coasters, why not a smaller one that is just really fun and easy to ride? 2007 is gonna be awesome.

*cough*Powder Keg*cough* ;)

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TCKR said:
*cough*Powder Keg*cough* ;)

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/agree

I know Cedar Point had the name Maverick trademarked recently.

Definition of Maverick is this :Etymology: Samuel A. Maverick died 1870 American pioneer who did not brand his calves
1 : an unbranded range animal; especially : a motherless calf

I am guessing itwill not be a watercoaster, just does not go with the name

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GothamJ said:
Give me an example of a coaster at another park where the height limit is below 48" and is thrilling for the entire family.

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How about Demon at SFGAM? Only 42" height restriction!

Craig

I seriously doubt that it will be an aquatrax coaster, and I'm kind of confused as to why so many people are jumping on that bandwagon.

I still say there is plenty of evidence supporting a completely original layout for an inversion-record-breaking mega-looper. Possibly launched...maybe more than one launched section of track with LIMs.

*** Edited 5/10/2006 3:07:37 AM UTC by CPgenius***

Could you please reveal this evidence to us? Frankly, I've not heard any evidence supporting that at all.

Well, save for maybe the fact that Jeff said it isn't a Setpoint ride.

What...you're not good at judging shapes underneath a tarp? ;)

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Cs6153 said:
Definition of Maverick is this :Etymology: Samuel A. Maverick died 1870 American pioneer who did not brand his calves

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Interesting... considering that Cedar Point's first season was in 1870....