Cedar Point '07 Project

DWeaver said:
It is funny reading all the guesses. Some people are still insisting it's anything but an Intamin. lol
I must say that if this ride is what I've heard it is, all you CP fanatics can rest easy. But it's not quite enough to get me back to that park...yet.

Thank you!!!

This is going back a page but I have read surveys from CP hotel guests and I can assure you that "rollercoaster" is not one of the top three reasons why a large percentage of the resort guests visit the parks.

rider85 said:
I belive that Jeff has said somewhere on this site or at Pointbuzz that every one will be happy with project 2007.

No, I said enthusiasts will probably be disappointed.

Jeff - Editor - CoasterBuzz.com - My Blog

Jeff's clearly getting my hopes up here.

Jeff said:
rider85 said:
I belive that Jeff has said somewhere on this site or at Pointbuzz that every one will be happy with project 2007.
No, I said enthusiasts will probably be disappointed.

This further supports a setpoint 'roller soaker' or a ride of similar nature. I don't think enthusiasts would be disappointed with an aquatrax (aside from those who think anything under 500 feet is a disappointment).

I personally think such a family-oriented ride would be a great addition to CP.

Nothing makes money like a child seeing a new toy on TV and going "I want that!", and without a doubt something like this would be a HUGE family draw.

Matt

-Matt

If Gemini were built today enthusiasts would be disappointed. The bar is too high...and Cedar Point is as guilt as anyone for putting the bar way up there.

I guess I'm not a typical enthusiast then. I'd rather ride a well-done mine ride than a poorly done hypercoaster. Tall+Fast doesn't equate to good. It can be good if done properly but otherwise it's just a marketing gimmick in my eyes.

-Matt

Jeff said:
rider85 said:
I belive that Jeff has said somewhere on this site or at Pointbuzz that every one will be happy with project 2007.
No, I said enthusiasts will probably be disappointed.

I am about as sure as sure can be that his original comment included the phrase "all of us". Though, given this latest comment, it doesn't matter much if that is indeed what he originally said. *** Edited 5/9/2006 2:22:21 PM UTC by djDaemon***

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wahoo skipper said:
If Gemini were built today enthusiasts would be disappointed.

We have people claiming here that Gemini is a family oriented ride.

I mean, the coaster isn't exactly the most hard core thrill ride, but its still a major coaster with a 118 ft. drop and speeds of 60 mph.

In many parks Gemini would still be a headliner type ride.

I think what the conversation is boiling down to is that it isn't maybe a lack of family oriented rides, its just that in the past 10 or 15 years there hasn't been much of an upgrade in that department.

Exactly. I've said this before, but it bears repeating. No one else in my family has ridden anything installed in CP in the last six years either because they aren't tall enough, or the ride is too intimidating. Skyhawk might be different, we'll have to see.

This, coming from a family that has had season passes to CP for four years running. The ice show is the only thing added in that period that my family, as a family, as seen, and frankly that's pretty good. The rest of the shows are okay, and better than your average amusement park, but all pretty much the same thing: 10 shortened high-energy song-and-dance numbers with six costume changes. The songs, costumes and "plot" change from time to time, but not the form.

I'm hoping that enthusiasts will be disappointed, because that might mean that the new project includes something that my five year old likes---and let me tell you, he's pretty disappointed that the flume is gone.

http://cse.umich.edu/

I think a lot of enthusiasts are happy with any coaster. Sure, some may want to see a record-breaking coaster, but we all enjoy and appreciate solid rides with good designs (my favorite rollercoaster is under 80 feet tall!) Heck, I was happy when CP put in Woodstock Express. It's a coaster!

Well, at least they didn't take out the choo-choo (SFMW, PGA).I would HOPE they replaced it with a family ride.

Even before I had a family I enjoyed breaking up the pace with a lap on a flume, choo-choo, or monorail. Heck, I'd never step foot in Disneyland if craziness was all I was looking for.

"I go out at 3 o' clock for a quart of milk and come home to my son treating his body like an amusement park!" - Estelle Costanza

Jeff said:
rider85 said:
I belive that Jeff has said somewhere on this site or at Pointbuzz that every one will be happy with project 2007.

No, I said enthusiasts will probably be disappointed.

Maybe Jeff is talking about the Merry Go Round enthusiasts that are hoping for the worlds tallest & fastest Merry Go Round on the planet.

It's not a Setpoint ride.

Jeff - Editor - CoasterBuzz.com - My Blog

Well, that sure narrows it down.

;)

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Well dang, Jeff. You have me all sorts of stumped now.

The only thing that really fits the bill is an aquatrax or mack water coaster, but both of those require a decent amount of theming to pull off and that isn't exactly CP's forte.

While it isn't a roller soaker, I do think that a setpoint coaster would be an excellent addition to any park if they are looking to bring in more families.

-Matt

IntrepidationAW said:
The only thing that really fits the bill is an aquatrax or mack water coaster, but both of those require a decent amount of theming to pull off

Not really. I see no reason why a nice water coaster would need any more theming than what the water ride there previously had.

Not that CP doesn't have the means of the know-how to nicely theme a ride. Given their history, though, I know what you mean. *** Edited 5/9/2006 3:08:53 PM UTC by matt.***

I don't doubt it's possible, it is just hard to imagine when the only aquatrax to date looks like this: http://www.coasterforce.com/images/atadv1.jpg

-Matt

janfrederick said:
Even before I had a family I enjoyed breaking up the pace with a lap on a flume, choo-choo, or monorail.

The March 16 entry on the Re-imagineering blog had some interesting points to make about this very subject. Good read.

CP is getting more into theming. Look at the picture of Hurricane Hannah's on Pointbuzz. Also, Castaway Bay is a beautiful themed water park. I do think the theming on the new ride will be fairly extensive.

I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks, than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.