Breakout year for SF

You're still my favorite, Bear.

Here are just a few sites where you can find attractions that are closed at Disney before you plan your trip.

Official Disney site...

http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wdw/calendar/refurbishmentslisting/index?id=CalendarRefurbishmentsListingPage

And this site even gives you a year in advance ride rehab update....

http://allears.net/tp/rehabs.htm

I cant find a web site that lists ride refurbisments for six flags anywhere.

Here is an statement from SF

Six Flags, Chase Announce Marketing, Sponsorship Alliance
Tuesday February 27, 9:00 am ET
Chase Will Be Official Credit Card Issuer of Six Flags, Official Sponsor of Company's 'Read To Succeed' Literacy Initiative

NEW YORK, Feb. 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Six Flags (NYSE: SIX - News) and Chase Card Services, a division of JPMorgan Chase & Co. (NYSE: JPM - News) today announced a marketing and sponsorship relationship under which Chase will become a Six Flags Corporate Alliance partner and the Official Credit Card Issuer of Six Flags for all its U.S. parks. The companies will collaborate on innovative in-park marketing and promotional initiatives, and Chase will become the first official sponsor of Six Flags' "Read to Succeed" literary initiative, which promotes reading to over 1.5 million students in nearly 18,000 participating schools nationwide.

Through this alliance, all Chase Six Flags cardmembers will receive special offers at Six Flags that include admission and in-park discounts. Other new marketing and promotional activities include:

- Chase will receive advertising billboards, broadcast announcements and
customer acquisition opportunities in all Six Flags parks. Chase
promotions will also appear on SixFlags.com, and the companies will work
together on ticket incentive programs for Chase credit card and banking
customers;

- Six Flags marketing messages will be included in Chase statement
mailings and emails. Chase has over 100 million cardmembers;

- Chase will become an official sponsor of Hispanic events at Six Flags
parks around the country;

- Six Flags promotions will appear on Chase's cardmember Web site, linking
directly to SixFlags.com where cardmembers will find special membership
ticket offers;

- Chase will be the official sponsor of Holiday in the Park, a December
event which features holiday and winter themed shows at Six Flags Over
Texas and Six Flags Fiesta Texas.

"This agreement with Chase highlights the key strength of what we offer our Corporate Alliance partners -- a broad portfolio of non-traditional marketing tools that serve to both attract new members and reward partners' most loyal customers," said Mark Shapiro, Six Flags President and CEO.

"Six Flags has been a terrific partner over the years, and our alliance gives Chase a great opportunity to market to millions of new consumers in the parks as well as through new sponsorship opportunities, with the bonus that we can also provide benefits to our existing customers," said Hugh Bleemer, executive vice president, Chase Card Services. "We look forward to working with Six Flags to develop even more innovative marketing and promotional options in the future."

About JPMorgan Chase & Co.

JPMorgan Chase & Co. (NYSE: JPM - News) is a leading global financial services firm with assets of $1.4 trillion and operations in more than 50 countries. The company has more than 140 million credit cards issued. Under the Chase and JPMorgan brands, the firm serves millions of consumers in the United States and many of the world's most prominent corporate, institutional and government clients. Information about the firm is available at www.jpmorganchase.com.

About Six Flags, Inc.

Six Flags, Inc., founded in 1961, is the world's largest regional theme park company. Six Flags, Inc. is a publicly-traded corporation (NYSE: SIX - News) headquartered in New York City.

And this helps make em better how?

I don't go to parks to have commercials shoved down my neck.

Who sees the advantage to having sponsorships but not distractions to it's guest.

I think all parks are guilty of having commercials shoved down your throat. Six flags just does it more than any other park.

At epcot, the honey I shrunk the audiance attraction screams Kodak the second you walk thrue the doors.

Well the rides not there anymore but there was nothing more annoying than riding PKI's old Antique cars and having JOHN NOLAN FORD Billboards every 50ft. A simple This ride sponsored by JOHN Nolan Ford please patronize our sponsors would suffice with perhaps a FORD display a couple times a year in some part of the park.

I don't goto parks to see everyday life.

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crazy horse said:
Here are just a few sites where you can find attractions that are closed at Disney before you plan your trip.

Official Disney site...

http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wdw/calendar/refurbishmentslisting/index?id=CalendarRefurbishmentsListingPage

And this site even gives you a year in advance ride rehab update....

http://allears.net/tp/rehabs.htm

I cant find a web site that lists ride refurbisments for six flags anywhere.

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Good one. [/sarcasm]

Maybe you just conveniently forgot that all Six Flags parks sans Magic Mountain are closed for the off-season while Disney is year-round. Meaning any notes of ride closures would be obsolete.

And the exception (Magic Mountain) DOES list ride refurbishments.

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Ajrides said:
Here is an statement from SF

Six Flags, Chase Announce Marketing, Sponsorship Alliance
Tuesday February 27, 9:00 am ET
Chase Will Be Official Credit Card Issuer of Six Flags, Official Sponsor of Company's 'Read To Succeed' Literacy Initiative

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Um......thanks?

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SF 1 - 10 of the parks I've been 2

SFNE (home park) 3 dident go last year can't take it!

GE -8 allways have a good time there!

SFDL - 6 good pizza!

SFGA - 7 when it's good it's good when it's bad!!!

SFA -2 EEK!!!

SFGAM - 7 enjoyed my trips here.

SFKK -4 they were alot better this year! but still!

SFWOA - 6 not very buzy all coasters open both times we were there and some smiles!

SFOG - 9 love this place always pleasent 2 us!!

SFMA - 7 treated 2 some smiles and some good small talk

SFMM - 5 loved X!!! will go back for another round! the rest of the place WOW bad bad bad! I did find a few happy staff

love the coasters! A breakout year good luck your gonna need it!!!

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Ilovthevu' said:
CF gives all the money to CP.

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Really? Since when? Last time I check, CF was spreading their money evenely throughout all of their parks. Proof of this is Hydra at Dorney, Patriot at WOF, WWK at GL, Silver Bullet at KBF, and Renegade at VF, with the exception of MA but that is out of their hands right now. It isn't hard to add something to all of your parks. SF just likes to spend so much on their big parks and spend enough money to buy some trash cans for their smaller parks.

*** Edited 2/28/2007 3:31:20 AM UTC by Kennywooddude*** *** Edited 2/28/2007 3:34:50 AM UTC by Kennywooddude***

Thats funny, because when I went to magic mountain a few months ago, there was no mention of the 15 rides that were not operating on there web site. And yes, I do mean 15 rides were not operating!

And yes, I did look on the sfmm web site the day of going, and the only ride that was listed was x. What about the other 14 rides? No metion. Why should six flags care? They got my money.

At least disney lets you know what attractions will not be operating before you spend loads of money to travel to the park.

Actually Disney is subject to ride closures much like any other park. However their likely to get them back up quickly.

Disney (and this was WALTS DECISION) has a rule that no attraction operates if something isn't working on it. One pirate on the fritz and the ride is closed until it's fixed.

You either get the whole show as it's meant to be, Or not at all.

Chuck

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Ajrides said:
Here is an statement from SF

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THAT'S your defense? A press release explaining how my Chase account statements are going to feature ads for Six Flags discounts? You're complaining that we're not seeing the big picture, yet when called on it, all you do is provide PR b.s. that says nothing about how the park experience is going to be improved?

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, thinking maybe you were just some kind of rabid Six Flags fanboy, but now I see you're just a marketing tool, either because you're employed by the park or planted on this site to drum up interest in the company. Unless you're willing to take part in a legit conversation about the company's problems, I'm done with morons like you.

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If all you do is complain about SF than stay away from there parks so none of us have to listen to you whine like my 6yr old daughter.

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If your daughter were old enough to know, I'm sure she'd be very proud of you.

I didn't quite understand why Ajrides posted that statement, so I ignored it.

I mean, what does a credit card company partnering up with SF have to do with how poorly the parks are operated? Did I miss the part in the statement where it said that Chase was going to ensure that the rides were open and the garbage cans were going to be emptied every day or so?

And I'm pretty sure that posting a news media article is against the TOS. It should be submitted to news.

And so what if SF has another partner. I see it as a bad business decision on the partners part. I suspect that Papa Johns, Nintendo, Chase, etc. don't know how bad SF is at delivering the service they offer. In the end these companies may get burned.

It's like the mean kid in school asking the nice kids if they'll be his friend. The nice kids who say yes will probably get punched in the face by the mean kid at one point in their friendship.

The guy's an idiot. Instead of defending Six Flags, he posts something so completely outside the scope of the conversation, it's laughable.

I'm not really against corporate sponsorship, as long as it's within reason. Heck, if a company wants to pay money to have their name plastered on something with hopes that I'll remember what they did next time I walk into a store, I'm all for it (as if I'm going to get the craving for Arby's when in the food court simply because I remember seeing an Arby's ad at a baseball stadium.) But what Shapiro seems to be doing is whoring out every aspect of the park. To me, pushing dozens of corporate names on the park guest is just a thinly veiled attempt to divert attention from the real problems- none of which are going to be solved by tie-ins by Nintendo, Chase and Papa Johns.

I like the link to the "rides index" for SFMM. But let's remember, the reason SFMM started saying something about closed rides one the website is VERY much the same reason GAdv did. The star attractions (X/Ka) were suffering from incredible amounts of downtime.

I give them some credit, but I'm not getting carried away and saying that they're "Disney-like" in their willingness to share information about *advance notification*.

I'm not here to defend SF or any other park. I have never once said this would be a breakout year for SF. I don't bash any parks because if I don't like a certain park I just never go back thats my choice. I am not a SF fanboy and my 3 fav parks are KW, Knoebels, and CP. I think if some of you sat down with Mark Shapiro and talked to him like I have you would see what hes trying to do with SFI and its not easy running a Corp that is so far in debt. Instead you just bash the guy for trying to save the company. There is no way the parks can be run right without money so he is trying to get the debt down as fast as possible. IMO the breakout year will be in 2010 when the debt should be more manageable.

Right, YOU'VE spoken with Shairo. That explains everything.

The next time you speak to you buddie Shapiro, tell him how we feel his parks can be improved. Maybe you can e-mail him a link to this topic or something. Hahaha.

Somehow I doubt that you've spoken with Mark Shapiro. And even if you have, talk is cheap. Last year I defended the guy when most people were calling him nothing more than one of Dan Snyder's puppets, making it clear that it was necessary to give the guy a chance. But he failed to keep many of the promises he made, and now he has to prove himself for me to buy into his spiel again.

As an enthusiast, I don't want to see Six Flags fail. I generally feel that Six Flags parks have a lot of potential and I want to see that potential realized. But like a lot of other enthusiasts, I'm going to be a little skeptical from here on out until Shapiro proves that he's up to the task?

Not a fanboy? People made valid complaints and tried to inspire a healthy debate and you responded by posting a Chase press release. Yeah, you are a fanboy.