B&M parts at SFOG!

props to Jet Coater for point out my mistake.  its just so hard to keep up with Intamin.  it seems like every decade they change something about their coasters.

still, its plainly obvious that this is a B&M coaster.  you southerners may be hoping for an Intamin, but its time to face the facts.  the type of coaster that it will be is known by few people and the ones on this site that "know" are fighting each other.

a flyer just doesn't make sense in my mind.  it doesn't seem like B&M to risk financial ruin if their flyers don't work by opening two in one year.  we aren't just talking about new train styles and a different type of track layout for them as it was for hypers.  while I have great faith in B&M's abilities, you can't be too sure and opening two prototypes is risky business as shown by Vekoma.  Arrow couldn't even get X going and they weren't working on another one.  another reason it doesn't make sense is Six Flags' heirachy (sp?).  they put the attention getters in the larger parks first before filtering down similar designs to smaller parks.  while it should be a big park, at this time SFOG is a smaller park and doesn't seem to be a likely recepient of the first B&M flyer in the SF chain.

for those that would like to prove me wrong, go ahead.  I'd love to see a B&M flyer in the states as soon as next year, but if one person says "trust me, I heard from my brother's cousin's friend who 'works' at the park that its a flyer," or "I can't reveal my sources," then I'm just going to go insane.  first of all, primary sources are the most trustworthy.  if you hear it from someone who works at the park make sure that they are higher up in the control chain.  info can be misinterpreted by lower workers and the lower workers like to screw with people.  second, if you can't reveal your source then you have no business revealing your info.  take the Jeff way out and encode your message then give people the key later on.

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Oh stop all the drama. It's a B&M flyer.
Ha ha ha DWeaver... so true.

So, if it is an impulse.... tell me why the footers that have been poured are scattered all over the place, not anywhere close to a straight line?

Here are some of the latest pics from SFoG. It shows coaster supports and afew other things.

 

http://www.sendpix.com/albums/011114/133527000000444da46e0d0afb37e2/

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Has anyone compared these newest support pictures the to construction pics of AIR ?

Also, are the hole patterns that join the tubular supports consistant with a B&M ? I know that some Intamins use some tubular supports (although mostly [x][x][x][x] style framework, like Arrows), but are the hole patterns that join the tubular parts different between B&M and Intamin ? This would be a dead giveaway, now that we have pics of the tubular pieces.
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Current favorite coasters:
Wooden: 1) Beast 2) Raven 3) Son of Beast 4) The Boss 5) Timber Wolf
Steel: 1) Raging Bull 2) Millennium Force 3) V2 4) Wild Thing 5) Mr. Freeze

Those square type supports also appear at LaRonde and thats definetly a B&M. Screamscape has pics of those.
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Look at:
http://www.prepare4air.co.uk/sept7.htm

Then look at:
http://www.sendpix.com/cgi-bin/acdis.dll?cmd=view&fp=/albums/011114/133527000000444da46e0d0afb37e2/0002.jpg&ref=/cgi-bin/acdis.dll%3Fcmd%3Dhstrip%26fp%3D/albums/011114/133527000000444da46e0d0afb37e2%26ref%3Dhttp://www.sendpix.com/%26rtgt%3D_top%26rows%3D2%26cols%3D6

It looks like a B&M to me - as well as some sort of inverted. I've been wanting to get to SFoG for some time now. If it is indeed a flyer (and it is looking more and more like it IS), then you know where you'll find me this summer !!!

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Current favorite coasters:
Wooden: 1) Beast 2) Raven 3) Son of Beast 4) The Boss 5) Timber Wolf
Steel: 1) Raging Bull 2) Millennium Force 3) V2 4) Wild Thing 5) Mr. Freeze

*** This post was edited by Joe Carroll on 11/14/2001. ***

Flyer=good

Hyper=better

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what happened to my conclusive evidence that it was a flyer? it mysteriously disappeared...
Okay folks, it's 100% a B&M Flyer.  Now that the mystery is over, where is that new Morgan hypercoaster going to?!

THAT is the new mystery! :)

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BTW - the parts for the B+M coaster at SFOG weren't shipped overseas, as many have pointed out.  They're being made by a firm called SOFCO, Southern Ohio Fabrication Company I believe.
http://www.sendpix.com/cgi-bin/acdis.dll?cmd=view&fp=/albums/011114/133527000000444da46e0d0afb37e2/0006.jpg&ref=/cgi-bin/acdis.dll%3Fcmd%3Dhstrip%26fp%3D/albums/011114/133527000000444da46e0d0afb37e2%26ref%3Dhttp://www.sendpix.com/%26rtgt%3D_top%26rows%3D2%26cols%3D6 

 

Now look at how the footers are curved for a turn.  Where is the turn in an Impulse?  And look t the bottom right corner of the pic and notice the footer there.  These footers are obviously spaced out in sets of two's which allow for the track to pass through the middle of them. It has to be a B&M Flyer



Joe Carroll said:

Has anyone compared these newest support pictures the to construction pics of AIR ?

I'm just curious as to why that would matter.  Are you suggesting that it is of similar layout or are you talking strictly of how the footers are placed in relation to each other.  If it's the second then this could definately be a telltale sign of what is to come, but if you are talking about layout then I think you are way off.  AIR is most likely going to be custom built to AT specifications (height restrictions and terrain) and I doubt we will ever see another flyer with the same layout.  Quite frankly I won't be able to get to Georgia anytime in the near future, so it doesn't matter to me other than having more people on this site being able to ride it and tell us all what they are like.

Incidentalist,

No, of course the layouts are likely to be different. I was referring to the actual beams, supports, etc. if you look at the early construction pics of air, and compare the -parts-, they are very similar. See my post above for links to the pictures, and compare. You'll see what I mean. I am about 95% sure it's a flyer, and 99.999% sure it's a B&M Inverted of some sort. Of course, this is just my opinion, and we all know what that means. ;)

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Current favorite coasters:
Wooden: 1) Beast 2) Raven 3) Son of Beast 4) The Boss 5) Timber Wolf
Steel: 1) Raging Bull 2) Millennium Force 3) V2 4) Wild Thing 5) Mr. Freeze

Well at least it HAS been confirmed now that it is a B & M. B & M did that them selves today at IAAPA. I'm about 98% sure that this is going to be the first beemer flyer in the U.S!
b&m confirmed this today. how do u know this. thanks
It is going to be a 200 Ft. B&M Flying coaster. Its going to be one hell of a ride!
how do u know this
GACyclone: I don't see how the placement of those footers helps your argument that it is a flyer.  it could be any other type of B&M ride and it needs two support poles connected.  or they could be for different parts of the ride.  the footers themselves don't mean anything besides the general layout of the track and where the supports will connect with the ground.  we don't know where the supports will angle off to, we don't know how high they will be, etc.  what I'm curious about is the supports themselves.  there were a couple pics that showed a straight support with two smaller supports coming out of it.  does anyone know what I'm talking about?  and if you do, do you know or can you guess at what they're for?
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After comparing the two pictures Joe Carroll posted im 99.9% sure that it is a B&M Flyer, since they are the exact same supports used for the lift on air,  when I compare those supports to a B&M Hyper I don't see the comparison same with anything Intamin.  If you still think its a Hyper or a Intamin look closly at those pics Joe Carroll posted and im sure it will change your mind. Its a B&M Flyer.
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