Batman & Robin: The Chiller - SFGADv Deconstruction??

Tuesday, January 9, 2007 12:18 AM
I sure as hell also hope they do not take out the rolls there...they were a good bit of fun on the ride! But seriously...what would taking out that element do for each ride? Nothing, I would think...
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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 2:00 AM
Those heartlines are my favorite inversion on any coaster. The degree of rotation changes as the vertical direction changes if you pay close attention. It's somewhat visible if you look at these pictures:

http://www.rcdb.com/ig424.htm?picture=5
http://www.rcdb.com/ig424.htm?picture=8
http://www.rcdb.com/ig424.htm?picture=7

It gives a really interesting sensation and seems that you almost pause upside down for longer than you should. Provides amazing hangtime. And then it whips you around faster on the way to the spike, and more leisurely going towards the tophat/cobra roll.

Oh and sometimes if there was a good crew and both sides were running they would launch the sides so they would be going backwards and forwards through the roll at the same time. But I've only seen the batman side open once aside from the ride's opening year.

I hope the fix the roll without having to change it too much. *** Edited 1/9/2007 7:03:13 AM UTC by mike okay***

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 7:34 AM
No there also was a different part that was taken and sent to one of the mr freeze coasters. This part was what enabled the ride to launch both sides at once.

But Its just a rumour lol.

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 12:48 PM
Well it would be cool if both sides open this year, I got the Robin side back a couple years ago (well I think it was the Robin side) so to get the Batman side and El Toro and KK (I pray) would be the shibby.
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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 2:07 PM
Yes the Robin side was the side that has been operational for the past few years.

I have the credits on both sides with OTSR's and would love the Batman side to operate again. I have almost given up hope on it happening but maybe just maybe it will.

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 2:55 PM
IMO this is the last straw for the ride.There is know way M. Shapiro is going to keep dumpnig money on fixxing it especially when there's another maintenance nightmare on the otherside of the park(KK). He has made it clear about rides that are always down, sell them, or scrap them.
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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 3:27 PM
Hey Mike...does the rotation change because as the train travels up it decelerates (obvious)? I noticed the degree change, and the rotation is tighter on the higher side of the rolls.
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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 4:59 PM
If i recall correctly, this is the area on the track that Robin had "crashed"? I remember my last trip to SFGADv seeing that the track was very chewed up, and am looking to see if I can find the photos I took of this.
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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 6:20 PM
That does make sense, Al, but I'm pretty sure it gets reversed when the train is moving backwards. I think the change in rotation's only purpose is provide the nice whip/float sensation that you find on the element. I hope this thing returns in 0.

Oh yeah, and I've always felt like I was the only one who liked robin over batman. I rode batman opening year with the OTSRs (sitting over a wheel and not prepared) and swore I would never ride again. Then my sister convinced me to go on robin and we sat in a non-wheel car and loved it. We re-rode about 5 times that day.

Then when the OTSRs came off it became my favorite ride in the park (although I like el toro better now). I still do like robin better than batman for some reason, which is weird because I'm not a fan of cobra rolls, even the other premiere launch cobra rolls.

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 8:35 PM
I totally forgot about the backwards part...wow. A nice, long roll is good in my book.
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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:05 AM
^^mike...for whatever reason, (maybe it's Premier?), the cobra rolls on Robin were really NOT bad at all. Generally I dislike cobra rolls myself, even the B&M versions, but taking it with lapbars, even in reverse, was not a problem at all.

The first inversion on the spaghetti bowls (also Premier) reminds me alot of the first part of a cobra roll, and with lapbars, those are fine as well...but since I didn't care for them with the OTSRs, I think the restraints are the key... :)

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 6:10 AM
When a B&M cobra roll looks like a cobra's head (kinda bent/flared out instead of all boxy) like on Hydra, it's not as bad.
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Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:56 PM
I didn't like hydra's cobra roll that much. It's as if they weren't even pretending to flip you upside down in that thing.

But yeah, even when the ride had OTSRs I liked Robin more. Then again I was a teenager back then and could take a beating. I even liked Viper back in those days.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:21 PM
Um Gator, the first two inversion on the spaghetti bowls *is* a cobra roll, just like Robin.

I'll be honest, I dont care much for cobra rolls either, but Robin's and Alpie's are the only two I would say I *like*. The others are just *meh*.

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Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:01 PM
Even more track has been removed, and the zero g rolls are completely gone:

http://www.flyinphilsphotos.com/amuse/nj/sfga/2007-01-21/album0

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Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:17 PM
Thats interesting that they have taken even more of the track down. The old track is nowhere to be seen, and you don't see anything new. Even crazier though is the Nitro train at the base of the lift.
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Monday, January 22, 2007 1:21 AM
They are probably just removing the zero-gs because didn't many trains valley in them leaving passengers upside down?

*** Edited 1/22/2007 6:22:50 AM UTC by Geewhzz***

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Monday, January 22, 2007 6:18 AM
Maybe they're going to add an immelman to connect the 2 tracks together. Since they only launch one side at a time anyway... the Robin credit could launch forward, go through the cobra, then immelman to the top hat (with a couple LIMs in there for good measure) and stop in the Batman side of the station.

Everyone get's off, grabs their stuff from the center, and leaves... the Batman credit would then board from that side (to the train facing backwards) and then launch backwards, into the [inverted! ;)] top-hat, immelman, cobra, and come to a stop in the Robin side of the station, where they would exit.

Oh wait! I know! Maybe they're dismantling it and sending it to MiA, piece-by-piece!

So far we have:

  • X-Flight
  • Hypersonic
  • King Cobra
  • Psyclone
  • Flashback
  • Batman & Robin: The Chiller
  • Batman from SFNO
  • Ultra-Twister from "The Park formerly known as SFDL"

What other ones did I miss? This is going to be a huge year for MiA!!

Edit: I thought of 2 more. :) *** Edited 1/22/2007 11:22:39 AM UTC by dannerman***

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Monday, January 22, 2007 12:11 PM

TSC 2007 said:
Even crazier though is the Nitro train at the base of the lift.

Nope they actually test the coasters in the winter. Nitro was run a lot over the 2005-2006 winter I was informed by a source at the park at the opening of the park in 2006. It was running so fast at the beginning of the season they had to move the On ride Photo camera.

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Monday, January 22, 2007 12:31 PM

dragonoffrost said:


Nope they actually test the coasters in the winter. Nitro was run a lot over the 2005-2006 winter I was informed by a source at the park at the opening of the park in 2006. It was running so fast at the beginning of the season they had to move the On ride Photo camera.


Man thats pretty good if they can already have their trains back online this early.

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