Bad News For Knoebels Flyer Fans!

PPP will be some fun stuff. =)

Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."

You will be showing me how to snap there, won't you Andy?

Oh, and are you still thinking about Great adventure Sunday and Dorney during the morning?

Depending on if I go to KW or not, I may joing you for both (with my ginger so that I'm dry all day...)

Show you how to snap? Its practically automatic on Knoebels' machine!

I'll be there.

Probably all day, on the flyers before the event starts. The coaster are pretty good during the day, but unf'nbelievable at night and the flyers are pretty good all day (and cheaper during the day ;)).

I doubt I'll go to Dorney unless there're other people around. I don't want to spend $20 for Talon and Steel Farce.

And yeah, snapping is pretty automagic. ;) It took me a full cycle to get a tiny snap my first time, but on my 3rd cycle I got a couple of good ones. By my 5th or 6th I had some godly runs, but I'm still not that consistent...

Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."

PPP is such a big event nowadays that you HAVE to go early on Saturday just to ride everything!

I remember the old days of PPP when the Phoenix, the Carousel, the Haunted Mansion and the Antique Cars were the only rides open. With only a few hundred people spread between those rides, it was possible to see all your friends and get 10 rides on everything within the 4 hours set aside for the event. Now, you're lucky if you get one ride on everything and see half of the people you expect to see.

Do I still love PPP? Absolutely!

Do I sometimes wish for the good 'ol days to return? Yes.

Do you hate people that answer their own questions? Probably.

That's a bummer...
no more soaring and snapping:
guess they should change steve millers song to:
Fly like a Beagle, to the sea....

Great Lakes Brewery Patron...

-Mark

Huh?

Please refresh my memory as I have never been on a good set of flyers, what is the proper technique for snapping. Is it just moving the bucket all the way in then all the way out, getting a nice rhythm going or is there more to it than that.

-Dan If you don't like the ride shut up and get out of line.

I had some pretty good snaps.

I guess all the suspense is over, and everyone can return from the edges of their seats.

Hmmm...and who predicted that again? ;)

Well, they don't sell crystal balls out here in NJ. Must be a CA thing ;)

I had a friend with a crystal ball. Fortunately, the other one was perfectly fine ;)

-Jim

Ha

Oh, and did I mention 'ha' ?

You did... but you can mention it again. Just for levity ;)

No crystal balls in NJ? Hmmm...that wasn't my experience. You may want to check with "The Church of the Mystic Light" in Flanders as well as just about anywhere in backwoods Sussex County. :)

Oh and Ha

Hey, all - having just received an "official" response from Knoebels' administration regarding the Flyer, I felt it necessary to post it here (I am a RAVING FANATIC in regards to Flying Scooters - also an amusement history buff).

Knoebels is very open to the whole "snapping" practice on their Flyer, but it's the aggressive forcing and slamming of the sails that's forced them to put up the sign. The sails have been damaged (many destroyed), and seeing as how Bish-Rocco Flying Scooters are no longer manufactured (the newer models are from Larson), Knoebels has to have replacements made in-house, and then sent out for finishing. As you can imagine, this is a very, very expensive undertaking. Most importantly, however, Knoebels is concerned about their gem of a Flying Scooter making it into the years to come - so that future generations can enjoy the thrill that only a vintage model can offer.

So, overall, feel free to snap - just take it easy on the ride. As the administrator told me (and I've found it to be quite true), there's no need to attack the rudder in order to achieve a good snap. By respecting the ride, we'll all assure a good, long life for this treasure, and be able to anticipate many years ahead of the Flyer doing what it does best - providing an unparalleled Flying Scooter experience.

Good news indeed.

Chuck, who obeyed the ops when they told him to take it easy.

I figured that's what they meant. Don't destroy the fins, just destroy the cables. ;)

I was there last Friday. The nice ride opp instructed each load before letting them into the ride area not to "whip" the Flyers. He made sure to tell everyone to have fun and move the sails, "because you paid to have fun and enjoy the rides." I thought that he did a great job in giving instructions without discouraging fun. If anyone snapped the Flyers, he threatened to "turn the ride down from 10 to 3 for the rest of the ride", and the person snapping them,"would not get on this ride for the rest of the day."

I must admit, The Flyers in any park scare me intensely. I have never snapped the Flyers because I am usuially to scared to even ride them. I have had maybe less than 5 rides on a Flyer type ride in my lifetime. I'll ride anything else with no fear.

I rode the Knoebels' ride only once. Scarier than the Haunted Mansion, imho.

A little off topic: I had planned on a TR for this trip, but haven't been in the mood. Even though I still have problems with how ugly I think the park is, I'll admit that I had a really good time there this trip. I can almost see why people rave about the place, ALMOST. The food was very good, but the food service employees sucked. The rides were fun and the ride opps were fantastic and friendly.

Let me say again how friendly the ride opp was when he told us to make sure we had fun, but not to snap the flyers.

adriahna said:

Knoebels is very open to the whole "snapping" practice on their Flyer, but it's the aggressive forcing and slamming of the sails that's forced them to put up the sign.... So, overall, feel free to snap - just take it easy on the ride.

but then Dexter said:

If anyone snapped the Flyers, he threatened to "turn the ride down from 10 to 3 for the rest of the ride", and the person snapping them,"would not get on this ride for the rest of the day."

So, the question still remains, which is it that is not allowed: Agressively, and unnecessairly, slamming the rudder / sail back and forth, or "snapping" the flyer even with gentle movement of the rudder / sail, or both?

"Yes... well... VICTORY IS MINE!"