4-car Dragster trains?

Draegs's avatar
According to local news...

The issue that caused the trains to be temporarily shortened has something to do with the brakes. Apparently the trains were still traveling too fast when they reached the first set of kicker wheels at the end of the brakerun.

Since magetic brakes (obviously) can't bring the train to a complete stop, these tires should be used only to slow the train down those last few miles per hour (see: MF's operation) Apparently this wasn't the case for TTD, though.

By shortening the trains you now have less weight and, therefore, less momentum to burn off. Once stronger magnets arrive from Sweden and are installed the trains will have their fifth cars added again.

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It's funny how these "problems" always make sense in the end.

Is this where I'm supposed to hope that they're running at full capacity when I fly up there in May? ;)

Sweden? Don't you mean Switzerland?
Hey, just because Intamin, who designed the ride, is Swiss doesnt mean that parts cannot come from elsewhere. My Japanese designed Toyota Avalon was built in Kentucky!

lata, jeremy

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Draegs's avatar
I'm just passing along what the media said...I really don't know where they are coming from.

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ApolloAndy's avatar

MillenniumForceX said:
Not to mention the ride time of TTD isn't terribly long, so I wouldn't think this would be too much of a capacity setback.

Ride time has nothing to do with capacity if you always keep the bottleneck (almost always the station, but with the double blocking, I'm not sure) block full...

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I thought some parts for Intamin came from Sweden? I remember the first time I rode MF and couldn't get the seatbelt off, I was complaining about these "stupid Swedes not being able to make easy seat belts" - so either I was also confused then or I read somewhere that Intamin parts come from Sweden.

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ApolloAndy's avatar
Don't all the cars of the train have magnets under them? Shouldn't the 5th car be generating it's own braking force as well? Or is most of the force generated when the first set of magnets passes over the fin?

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In order to keep capacity above 1000 pph with a 12 passenger train the interval between dispatches is going to have to be a maximum of 43 seconds.

Does this sound like it's going to be possible?

Or a better question... Does anyone know how quickly Xcelerator can recharge and launch at full capacity?

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Why I asked if it was Switzerland instead of Sweden is because some seem to mix those countries up.

Phyter - Although I don't know how long a recharge can take, 43 seconds is nothing for CP crews. Gemini has a 23second interval, and CCMR has a 21 second interval, and those crews are usually right on the money.

The problem is that the launch system needs to recharge in half that time, since it'll be launching two trains every 40(or so) seconds....But I'm fairly certian that Intamin took that into consideration during development, but hey you can never be too sure when it comes to an Intamin ride! :)
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Wait how are you calculating capacity? To me capacity is number of dispatches per hour multiplied by the number of passengers per train. This yeilds passengers per hour (PPH).

Two trains every 40 seconds with 12 passengers per train would yield a capcity of 2160 passengers per hour. I don't think that's going to be possible.

The originally stated (theoretical) capacity with 16 passenger trains was 1500 pph. In order to achive this level of capacity dispatches would have to occure about every 38 seconds.

Assuming my elemetary school math is correct capacity will drop to 1136 pph with a 12 passenger train at the same interval. Still not too bad. In fact I may have just answered my own question. :)

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Jeff's avatar
As I mentioned on GTTP, Draegs reason (or the one he saw) is not correct. Quite the opposite, that brake run is over kill. The first several sections have the fins removed entirely, and each fifth fin has been removed. There is plenty of extra stopping power available if they want it.

People Who Know(TM) tell me this is just part of the break-in process. Also, judging by the way things went, I don't think they got the ride signed-off by Intamin until the last couple of days. Everything is still very new, and it shows. It'll get better in the next week I'm sure.

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The Mole's avatar
If there is one thing I know it's this:

Coaster fans can't agree on anything but this past statement I made. I personally belive the break fins are more likely since CP would rather have the trains running at full capacity on opening weekend.

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ApolloAndy's avatar
That post had bad spelling and grammar and the only part of it that made sense was an over generalization and just plain wrong. Please consider your posts before making them.

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Jeff, any idea on lighting (drag tree), when its gonna be installed or if they were already?

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I sure must say the trains look kind of dorky with only four cars on them.....

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Wow, and I thought Xcelerator's five-car trains were short.
so i guess the question is, does anybody know when they will get all 5 cars on the trains, that is if they ever will?

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Jeff's avatar
Yes, they will, probably sooner than later. It's really nothing to worry about.

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