4-car Dragster trains?

Will this redesigned part end up on the trains, or is it something that will end up on the track, or is it somthing hindering the launch??

My guess is that they're either conditioning the launch by reducing the load it has to pull, or something mechanical, as tambo alludes, is preventing the running of a full length train. Both could be taken care of by running shorter, lighter trains.

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Scott W. Short
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I doubt very much it has anything to do with physics (as people pull stupid reasons out of their ass) and would bet on somethig mechanical, though a lack of strength on the part of the motor is not the reason.

A broken axel strikes me as unlikely, just because I don't feel such things just "break," but giving the benefit of the doubt, any similar problem would explain why they'd remove one car from every train: The computer expects uniform train length as it moves them around between blocks.

And yes, Digi69, said post was stupid. If you can draw a connection between tossed water dummies (which wouldn't happen unless a belt and lapbar failed... not) and removing one train, then your imagination is more vivid than mine. Ask my imaginary friend here...

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*** This post was edited by Jeff 4/29/2003 9:34:32 AM ***

On the bright side, since they probably will assign seating, the chances of getting the front or back seat just increased a little bit.

If anyone is curious, there are many new pics (4/29) at the CP website. One with the concessions under the bleachers, some queue shots, and few with trains in the unload area and in the station as well.

My question is...haven't they already designed the station for five car trains? I'm guessing they will just rope off a section until the time that they are operating a five car train. Any thoughts on this?

Link: http://www.topthrilldragster.com/public/inside_park/rides/thrill/ttd/photo/index.cfm
*** This post was edited by coasterfreaky 4/29/2003 10:54:32 AM ***

I think the design of the station will tell us alot. If they just rope off a section, we will probably see full operation sometime this season. If they permanently change the layout of the station, well they will probably leave it the way it is. That is of course if they get the station modification done in time. :)

Are the pictures that were posted taken very recently? Because in the first picture on the left, second row, there is a train on the downside of the tower, and it has 3 middle cars on it. I don't know when they were planning on making the modifications to the trains, but as of the date of that picture, they were full-curcuit launching full 5 car trains.

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Go to the actual website and you will see a picture of the train with only 12 seats.

What is not readily available is if the loading station is set up with 2 extra rows for the missing car. Remember, two of the cars are one row jobs so that would be a change to the loading platform if you took a whole car in the middle out.

Now, Cedar Point may not be the quickest on the draw but they still list 16 passenger trains.

PittDesigner-

I have 20-20 vision, but I couldn't tell for certain that train had 5 cars. Are you sure?

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Yes, *edit: this thing ate my entire reply!

Ok, the seat backs are red which gives a little bit of definition to each seat. There are also areas in the train where you can see extra daylight, indicating a break in between cars. I can obviously see the front and back and I count 4 spaces meaning F-M-M-M-B, or 5 cars.

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*** This post was edited by PittDesigner 4/29/2003 1:08:51 PM ***

I don't think the transfer track is:

a) in a geogrpahical position to be used for shuttle operation (for instance, Xcelerator's is quite far from the station house)

b) in a position along the track to be used for shuttle operation (In order to get a train fo Xcelerator's transfer, it has to complete the entire course.

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Andy - your point #2 is incorrect. I have witnessed trains being moved backwards from Xcelerator's station to the transfer track and removed from the circuit. I would assume that TTD has drive tires from unload thru load and up to the launch point and could accomplish the same thing.

Moosh

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Don't believe everything you think. - bumper sticker seen on 4/19/03

Moosh is right. Basically, any sections of the ride that are parallel to the ground need drive wheels. The launch, brakes, and tower are obviously not flat. Everything else: stations, transfer, staging, all have drive tires.

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Damage control is a funny thing.

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Is it the real yellow or the yellow that they had on the coaster cars??

Just a pic of the 4 car-train on the top of the tophat...

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery1896.htm?Picture=42

Where does the other train go while the first one is backing up?

Presumably for switch station shuttle style operation you'd need to be able to back a train up past the transfer, put the other one in front of it and then go...

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Be polite and ignore the idiots. - rollergator
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Andy - IIRC in a 2-train operation the train in the station must be launched to reach the transfer track. The train behind it can be rolled back. So you're 1/2 correct ;)

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Don't believe everything you think. - bumper sticker seen on 4/19/03

I found something odd on rcdb. They have pictures of it going up the top hat with five cars and then they have a picture of it cresting the top hat with a four car train. So they must have made a descision to change between those two pictures.

The dummy being thrown is the dumbest reason I have ever heard.

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I'm fairly confident with CP staff training in capacity management. The times I've been, they've done exceptionally with getting riders on and off quickly and with a pleasant attitude. Not to mention the ride time of TTD isn't terribly long, so I wouldn't think this would be too much of a capacity setback.

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I am SURE they will return it to 16. The stats say that there are 16 seats each. If they had the time to update the auction, they had the time to update the stats if the had to.

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4 days...

By the way, in the construction pics on the CP / TTD website, it only has 4 cars...
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