4-car Dragster trains?

Monday, April 28, 2003 2:50 PM
I was checking on the bidding for TTD's auction and found some interesting news posted about the trains.

Check out the link: http://www.firelandsredcross.org/topthrilldragster/bid.html

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Monday, April 28, 2003 3:03 PM
Well there you have it then. They're officially using four-car trains.

At first, that seems like a problem, cutting capacity by 25%. On the other hand, that's still about 1,400 pph.

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Monday, April 28, 2003 3:11 PM
Whoa! Did I miss something? Were there rumors about this? Why are they doing this? So does this mean an 8 train op, then?

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Monday, April 28, 2003 3:12 PM
No, one of the pairs will have "first riders" twice. It will be interesting to hear why they shortened the trains. Anyone care to speculate?

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Monday, April 28, 2003 3:12 PM
Why exactly were they reduced in the first place? Im guessing it has to do with launching/speed issues, but if its something different can someone please tell why?

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Monday, April 28, 2003 3:13 PM
I'm pretty sure it is still a 6 train op. but to compensate the extra people, they need to run some of the first trains twice.

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Monday, April 28, 2003 3:13 PM
Wait a minute! How could the ride go from six trains to eight trains? Could someone explain, I'm a little confused.

EDIT: There were several posts before me that I didn't see.
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*** This post was edited by CoasterKrazy 4/28/2003 7:15:14 PM ***

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Monday, April 28, 2003 3:17 PM
There will only be six trains, and the first two will just run twice. I hope this doesn't truly hinder the capacity of the ride. One this big will have tons of people. I wonder why they had to do this. Believe me, they wouldn't if they didn't have to.

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Monday, April 28, 2003 3:19 PM
Very weird. Upon viewing video of the testing (downlaoded before I knew where it came from) they were only running 4 car trains (12 passengers), and it seemed pretty slow.

Obviously they are doing this because they have to...so: Why?

1. Launch mech not up to launching 16 people? Doesn't seem likely, especially since they said somewhere about purchasing an oversized system and not running it near max speed.

2. Too intense neg. Gs in the back of a 16 person train? I only considered this after rememebr the extreme difference between the front and back of Hypersonic.

3. ?

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*** This post was edited by Peabody 4/28/2003 7:23:32 PM ***

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Monday, April 28, 2003 3:28 PM
I don't see how this could be good news. Something must have happened.

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Monday, April 28, 2003 3:28 PM
Well if they really are running four car trains, then they must have known they were going to do this for a while. They would have to order two more front and backs to the trains, and I'm sure those can't be made in a jiffy then sent to the US.

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Monday, April 28, 2003 3:30 PM
Thats what I was thinking. Were six-car trains originally shipped to Cedar Point, and then the change was made? Or was the change made earlier on than that?

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Monday, April 28, 2003 3:41 PM
Yes, pics on the website show the 16 passenger trains on the track. The change/decision must have been recent. Why? So are they going to have 6 spare middle cars in storage now?
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Monday, April 28, 2003 4:18 PM
Jeff - the change couldn't have been too recent. I'd think going from 5 cars to 4 cars would require a slight redesign in the station rows and the blocking system.

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Monday, April 28, 2003 4:29 PM
Not if they just ran as is with 2 rows roped off.

This sounds a lot like Volcano to me, Hopefully this is just temporary.

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Monday, April 28, 2003 4:43 PM
Eight trains for acution. There are still only six trains, but each one will only have four cars, which is 12 seats per train.

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Monday, April 28, 2003 4:43 PM
Just remember...

When MF first opened it only had two of it's three trains running. That's only 66% of total capacity...at least TTD will be running with 75%

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Monday, April 28, 2003 5:10 PM
Something has to be up. Possibilities;

1. The launching mechanism may need 'broken in'. For example, in the owners manual of a new car, you can usually find a section that states to 'not run the vehicle over 55 mph for the first 500 miles'. It's possible that the launching mechanism may need to be treated this way, with the equivalent of a train section being removed temporarily.

2. A mis-calculation in the weight of the train and the power of the launching mechanism. Doubtful

3. A mis-calculation in the forces applied to the rider. Also unlikely.

4. An 'unexpected' error-problem. This isn't probable either since most of the kinks should have been worked out on Xcelerator.

So, the best scenario would be a case like #1.

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Monday, April 28, 2003 5:19 PM
Good point....which raises the quiestion of just how permenant this is. I guess we will maybe find out something. If it's setup and blocked for 16 people trains, we can only guess that it is temporary or a last-minute change.

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Monday, April 28, 2003 5:20 PM
This is just for the auction, though. I am sure they will be running six trains on opening day. Well, I hope so....

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