$200,000 a year spent at Disney?

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The cake looks fine but I'd prefer my matcha ice cream from Himeji Japan (see? I travel the world too!)

https://flic.kr/p/Z3yEp4

Edit: Ah yes. Let's look at Disney's own propaganda about how environmentally friendly their cruising is.

No cruising is environmentally friendly. I cruise. But I'm not hypocritically going around acting like owning an SUV is deplorable and then taking 25 cruises.

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Leave the man alone. 25 cruises. Seems like more than enough punishment for 10 lifetimes of environmental sins. Plus 2. ;)

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Oh I don't have a problem with his cruising. I have a problem with the hypocrisy and the overreaction whilst accusing someone of being in 'dangerous territory' for suggesting maybe his child could find the foods he likes without taking a Disney Cruise.


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Awww. I'm sorry. I came back to this thread after a few days because I was kinda busy. Pardon me for responding lol.


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You OK? And I mean that sincerely, because this happened a few months ago.

Different topic, same scenario.


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Is SUVs Are Evil still a thing? Maybe it’s a regional issue, but I live in Indiana and SUVs and trucks are ubiquitous. The real litmus test is how one feels about nuclear power. There’s the real opportunity to move the needle on carbon emissions.


Nuclear powered cruise ships - the world is ready for them!

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OhioStater:

You OK? And I mean that sincerely, because this happened a few months ago.

Is anyone ok this time of year? The days are short. We all need to cut each other some slack.

Tekwardo:

have a problem with the hypocrisy and the overreaction

I think everyone has noted your feelings about Jeff at this point.

Bakeman31092:

Is SUVs Are Evil still a thing?

People have opinions.


Bakeman31092:

The real litmus test is how one feels about nuclear power. There’s the real opportunity to move the needle on carbon emissions.

I'm in the pro-nuclear camp. But I also read this fascinating (and terrifying) book about Chernobyl, and I do not believe that ego and hubris are limited to soviet-era Russia. Definitely worth a read!

https://goodreads.com/book/...-chernobyl


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Command and Control is another great read. Makes you realize how close to the brink of nuclear disaster we operate on a day-to-day basis in an effort to maintain the readiness of thousands of nuclear weapons.


Cruise ships, like passenger cars are a very small percentage compared to commercial shipping, also cruise ships don't use dirty, dirty fuel.

The shipping industry's importance to the global economy cannot be overstated, accounting for some 90 percent of world trade. Billions of tons of goods and products are transported by sea every year, from crude oil and natural gas to food and cars. However, global shipping is still reliant on heavily polluting fuels, with the sector contributing approximately two percent of global greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions in 2020. If it were a country, global shipping would be the world’s sixth-largest emitter of carbon dioxide.

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I'm not against nuclear, but economically there's no world where it makes sense. Even some of the "mini" projects have been bailed on recently. It's just cheaper to go the renewal route at this point, even when you add in utility scale storage.

Most current ICE SUV's are small to midsize hybrids that are about where a hybrid car used to be a decade ago. But to be clear, an Escalade is ridiculous, as is an Armada. I mean, Jesus, they didn't name it after a boat, they named it after many boats. All things considered, the electric transition is happening faster than I expected. Prices are coming down, too. A base Model 3 after tax credit is down to $29K, which is insane. Mine was around $52k almost six years ago.

And I feel pretty good about my net carbon footprint, even with cruises. We've been all-EV for eight years, and my power plant has generated 46MW in five years. Being judged for that by Internet randos is not on the list of things I need to worry about today.

Besides, cruises have unlimited pancakes.


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I vaguely recall seeing an argument that renewable is unlikely to be able to replace all of fossil, but I can't remember why.


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I’m asking this purely out of curiosity and definitely not to be snarky, but if nuclear isn’t really an option, what’s the alternative? When I think about trying to go full-on EV, the electricity to power that has to come from somewhere, and can solar and wind really deliver the needed juice?

Again, I’m just trying to educate myself a bit more on this.


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Interestingly enough, Disney was granted the authority to build a nuclear plant (along with an airport, roads, etc) as part of the legislation that created Reedy Creek. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2019/02/21/disney-world-could-have-gone-nuclear/?sh=32fb27395393


"You can dream, create, design, and build the most wonderful place in the world...but it requires people to make the dreams a reality." -Walt Disney

I did a little digging--the main constraints for renewables are land area and raw materials to make up the apparatus for energy capture. Here's a representative article from Foreign Policy. I picked this one b/c FP is relatively free of left/right bias and a reasonably reputable news source. Interestingly, it also points to some fundamental limits on nuclear (fission) power.

TL;DR summary: "Free lunch; there isn't one."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2...enewables/

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The problem right now is three-fold.

Even if we could build all the solar, and wind we wanted there is...

Storage - better battery tech, we have had a few solid-state and chemistry advances but still need more.

Infrastructure - the grid in the US, and most of the world is ancient and inefficient, and needs to connect to that better storage.

Also geothermal is not often added to the mix, but can greatly reduce heating and etc.

But again the biggest problem is Commercial, not Personal.

Jeff:

Besides, cruises have unlimited pancakes.

Has Jeff finally answered the question 21 years later?


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I've been concerned about our environmental trajectory for the last 15 years. While we have made SOME progress we are way behind the curve. Some estimates are that we have until 2030 to change our current trajectory or face the point of no return. 2022 had the largest release of carbon emissions in recorded history, and we are on pace to pass that this year. Couple that with the prohibitive cost of most renewable energy and the fact that the solar industry and electric vehicles are majorly subsidized by the federal government and some state governments. All that can go away with a change in administration looking to cut costs.

Nobody talks about it but the biggest issue isn't power generation from renewables but consumption. The average American consumes 5 times what the Earth can provide. 5. We would have to start living like those in Honduras. Sorry to channel Jimmy Carter but without a significant reduction in worldwide consumption we will not innovate our way out of this. What can you do? Eat less meat, travel less, buy less things, raise your thermostat in the summer (78) and lower it in the winter (68), read a book from the library instead of streaming a show, etc.

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