95 degree first drop on new coaster.
Since this is not yet on their official website, I don't think this belongs in the news section, but I you may find this interesting....
In the latest issue of Amusement Today there is a full page add from Gerslauer showing off their new coaster. They are holding a contest to name the coaster before it's official debut at IAAPHA. The rendering is crazy looking. Check out the stats:
Lift angle: 90 degrees
First drop: 95 degrees (YES, past vertical)
Lift height: 82 feet
Trains have 2 rows of 4 people, and there is a total of 5 "overhead inversions".
I wish I could scan this ad for you guys, but probably shouldn't for copyright reasons. If you know anyone who gets AT, be sure to look it up! I thought X, Deja Vu, V2, etc., were steep!
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- Peabody
In the latest issue of Amusement Today there is a full page add from Gerslauer showing off their new coaster. They are holding a contest to name the coaster before it's official debut at IAAPHA. The rendering is crazy looking. Check out the stats:
Lift angle: 90 degrees
First drop: 95 degrees (YES, past vertical)
Lift height: 82 feet
Trains have 2 rows of 4 people, and there is a total of 5 "overhead inversions".
I wish I could scan this ad for you guys, but probably shouldn't for copyright reasons. If you know anyone who gets AT, be sure to look it up! I thought X, Deja Vu, V2, etc., were steep!
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- Peabody
Now let me see if I get this straight...
The lift angle is 90 degrees. That is straight up, correct? Well, then when the coaster goes down, and assuming that these stats are correct, and it reaches its 90+ degree angle, will it not just run back into the same track that took it up the hill?
That just kind of makes no sense.
Sorry, but I gotta see those stats for myself to believe anything as unbelievable as that.
The track would probably have to bend first before it goes down if it goes past 90 degrees... but again, I said it in the post about the possibilities of a 90+ degree angle and I'll say it again...
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE: The amount of strain that it will put on you and the train itself will be too much!!
This is VERY different than coming out of an inversion because the train doesn't have the momentum or speed to take some of the strain off of you or the train!
Lemme guess, this coaster will be going up somewhere overseas, huh?
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The Great Escape... Soon to become Six Flags Adirondack Escape!!!
The lift angle is 90 degrees. That is straight up, correct? Well, then when the coaster goes down, and assuming that these stats are correct, and it reaches its 90+ degree angle, will it not just run back into the same track that took it up the hill?
That just kind of makes no sense.
Sorry, but I gotta see those stats for myself to believe anything as unbelievable as that.
The track would probably have to bend first before it goes down if it goes past 90 degrees... but again, I said it in the post about the possibilities of a 90+ degree angle and I'll say it again...
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE: The amount of strain that it will put on you and the train itself will be too much!!
This is VERY different than coming out of an inversion because the train doesn't have the momentum or speed to take some of the strain off of you or the train!
Lemme guess, this coaster will be going up somewhere overseas, huh?
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The Great Escape... Soon to become Six Flags Adirondack Escape!!!
OK, guys. I thought many of you might want a scan! I'm on the road right now and don't have a scanner with me. The next time I will be around one will be Friday. If you are too antsy and can't wait perhaps someone else here gets Amusement Today, and they could scan it. It's in the current issue (July), on page 17 (after the waterpark special section).
Coastaluva: It is nothing like a tilt coaster. The lift goes 90 degrees straight up, goes over the top, then hit's the amazing 95 degree mark. After leveling out at ground level it enters a large vertical loop, then has a tight, compact, twisting circuit.
What I thought is really fun is Gerstlauer holding a contest to name this model they are going to be offering. They will pick the best 5 names, print them in amusement today, and then there will be a vote. Pretty cool!
Trbiggr: There are no hints as to where it will show up. I don't think it's officially for sale yet, but the add sounds like it will be unveiled at IAAPHA and made officially for sale. The purpose of the add seemed to be mostly for the contest and to create buzz, but it did give detailed specs and a complete rendering. I must say it looks like one INTENSE little coaster that will have a small footprint. I gather this is the stock version and not a custom job.
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- Peabody
Coastaluva: It is nothing like a tilt coaster. The lift goes 90 degrees straight up, goes over the top, then hit's the amazing 95 degree mark. After leveling out at ground level it enters a large vertical loop, then has a tight, compact, twisting circuit.
What I thought is really fun is Gerstlauer holding a contest to name this model they are going to be offering. They will pick the best 5 names, print them in amusement today, and then there will be a vote. Pretty cool!
Trbiggr: There are no hints as to where it will show up. I don't think it's officially for sale yet, but the add sounds like it will be unveiled at IAAPHA and made officially for sale. The purpose of the add seemed to be mostly for the contest and to create buzz, but it did give detailed specs and a complete rendering. I must say it looks like one INTENSE little coaster that will have a small footprint. I gather this is the stock version and not a custom job.
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- Peabody
Dawg Byte: The track that goes past vertical does not last long. The best way I can describe the lift until I get home to my scanner is a very stretched out capital letter R.
You may think past vertical is impossible, but apparently these coaster engineers disagree with you. This is for real.
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- Peabody
You may think past vertical is impossible, but apparently these coaster engineers disagree with you. This is for real.
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- Peabody
You can buy a subscription. It's quite expensive but a good publication. 90 degree lift, sounds so stupid. Whats the point in a 95 degree drop.
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.:| Brandon Rodriguez |:.
http://www.coasters2k.com
From what it sounds this coaster could be built. From what I've heard is that CP is getting a TA2K next year but this almost sounds like a TA2K so it might end up at CP! That would be cool since I only live a couple of hours from there.Email me the article to please cjmjones008@hotmail.com
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Cedar Point, doesn't get any better then that:)
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Cedar Point, doesn't get any better then that:)
It may not be a big strain on the shoulders. When I am in an Arrow looper, the bottom of the OTSR serves as a lapbar, the part closest to my shoulder doesn't even touch my shoulders. So if there was a drop like that then it would be more stain on the lap.
Also if that isn't enough for ya, what about looping rides. Rides that just go in a loop. Well they go over 90 degree and no one is complaining about that. THey do a full 360 so the coast can't be that bad.
Plus, the whole issure about the coaster running into the lift hill, well there is a simple solution. Say the coasters goes up 90 degrees, levels to 0 degrees, goes straight for about 50ft (just overexagerating) after that drops and hits 95 degrees, it won't hit the track. All they have to do is move the drops as far away from the lift so the ride won't run into it.
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You are the Weakest Link, Goodbye.
Also if that isn't enough for ya, what about looping rides. Rides that just go in a loop. Well they go over 90 degree and no one is complaining about that. THey do a full 360 so the coast can't be that bad.
Plus, the whole issure about the coaster running into the lift hill, well there is a simple solution. Say the coasters goes up 90 degrees, levels to 0 degrees, goes straight for about 50ft (just overexagerating) after that drops and hits 95 degrees, it won't hit the track. All they have to do is move the drops as far away from the lift so the ride won't run into it.
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You are the Weakest Link, Goodbye.
I scanned the ad: http://www.kpunlimited.com/images/gerst.jpg
These are some of the ride features:
-single car design
-90-degree lift hill (car perpendicular to the ground)
-95 degree initial drop
-loop
-double corkscrew
-double spiral
-corkscrew
-spiral
-steeply banked curves (a total of 5 overhead inversions)
*** This post was edited by Kennywood Insider on 7/9/2001. ***
These are some of the ride features:
-single car design
-90-degree lift hill (car perpendicular to the ground)
-95 degree initial drop
-loop
-double corkscrew
-double spiral
-corkscrew
-spiral
-steeply banked curves (a total of 5 overhead inversions)
*** This post was edited by Kennywood Insider on 7/9/2001. ***
I'm not arguing about whether this coaster is being built or has been designed.
What people are trying to say is that when you go through a loop, you are going through it at a rate which is large enough for centrifugal force to actively push you into your seat. If it were to just drop off into this 95 degree drop, you would be pushed, even "slammed" into your restraint because the speed, and therefore the centrifugal force would not be great enough to keep you pushed towards the track.
For this to work, you must have enough speed for centrifugal force to keep you in your seat. Negative G's are quite painful if you are being pushed up into a harness. Your butt is able to take more G's than your shouldars and collar bone.
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A New World. A New Technology. One Last Hope for Salvation. Neon Genesis Evangelion
What people are trying to say is that when you go through a loop, you are going through it at a rate which is large enough for centrifugal force to actively push you into your seat. If it were to just drop off into this 95 degree drop, you would be pushed, even "slammed" into your restraint because the speed, and therefore the centrifugal force would not be great enough to keep you pushed towards the track.
For this to work, you must have enough speed for centrifugal force to keep you in your seat. Negative G's are quite painful if you are being pushed up into a harness. Your butt is able to take more G's than your shouldars and collar bone.
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A New World. A New Technology. One Last Hope for Salvation. Neon Genesis Evangelion
I was going to post something about this, but I never got around to it. It pretty impressive. The reason it can be a vertical lift and further than vertical drop is because they are one car trains like a wild mouse. Like Here's description of the layout and details:
Ride elemts: single-car design, 90 degree lift hill (car perpendicular to ground), 95 degree initial drop!, loop, double corkscrew, double spiral, corkscrew, spiral, steeply banked curves (a total of 5 overhead inversions)
Dimensions:
Width: 197 ft.
Depth: 95 ft.
Height: 82 ft.
Track Length: 2,100 ft
Capacity:
No. of Passengers/Cars: 8
No. of Rows: 2
No. of Cars: 8
Hourly Throughput: 1,600 pph
Ride Speed & Forces:
Lift Speed: 8 ft./sec.
Max. Speed: 50 mph
Max: Slope: 95 degrees
Max: Incline: 70 degrees (not sure if this means after the lift)
Max: G-force: 4.5 G's
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Your best? Losers are always whining about doing there best...winners go home and ******* the prom queen.
Ride elemts: single-car design, 90 degree lift hill (car perpendicular to ground), 95 degree initial drop!, loop, double corkscrew, double spiral, corkscrew, spiral, steeply banked curves (a total of 5 overhead inversions)
Dimensions:
Width: 197 ft.
Depth: 95 ft.
Height: 82 ft.
Track Length: 2,100 ft
Capacity:
No. of Passengers/Cars: 8
No. of Rows: 2
No. of Cars: 8
Hourly Throughput: 1,600 pph
Ride Speed & Forces:
Lift Speed: 8 ft./sec.
Max. Speed: 50 mph
Max: Slope: 95 degrees
Max: Incline: 70 degrees (not sure if this means after the lift)
Max: G-force: 4.5 G's
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Your best? Losers are always whining about doing there best...winners go home and ******* the prom queen.
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