95 degree first drop on new coaster.

can you send me a copy, Peabody?
Millenniumforce3@aol.com

*** This post was edited by Millennium Force on 8/27/2001. ***

Actually the add appears to be photo of a simplified model.  Don't expect it to be dead accurate, though some of the Schwarzkopf loops are just about as close to circular as the one shown in the add.
The trick to doing most of what is claimed here is using very short trains.  The trains listed are single car trains with just 2 rows.  Kind of like a wild mouse car except it is 4 seats wide.  The car must be as wide as it is long.  This reduces the difference in G's between the rows which is the key to having tight radiuses on the first hill.  This is what has already been done on Hypersonic XLC, except it has 4 rows.
Going beyond vertical doesn't cause any real problems by itself as far as forces on the rider.  A 95 degree drop in the straight section causes just a small negative G, much less than what you get with air time on many coasters.  A few coasters have at least -1 G at points.
As far as the vertical lift is concerned, Toboggans have had them for many years.  A vertical lift for an 8 seat single car would have much less stress on the chain than a conventional lift for a train seating 30 or so.
If I question any of Gerstlauer's claims, it is the 1600 rider per hour capacity.  That would require a dispatch every 18 seconds.  You might be able to get this on a mouse with simple restraints, but I doubt it with 4 wide seating and more complicated restrains.

*** This post was edited by Jim Fisher on 8/27/2001. ***

HOLY S____!
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"REDWINGS 2002"
My gosh, you guys are a bunch of underestimating skeptics! It never ceases to amaze me how people won't believe something even though they've seen countless innovations over the years. What's the drop going to feel like? Millennium Force 15 degrees steeper. You aren't going to be crushed to death, fall off the track, or snap your neck. The times when circular loops were dangerous was when they were very, very small. You won't have the neck snapping effect on a large loop like this. The skepticism can just drive a man crazy!

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. We've put a man on the moon, but we can't have a drop steeper than 90 degrees? Please, people.

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Knowing others is intelligence, knowing yourself is true wisdom.
Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

That loosk insane, look for me to be in line to ride if it shows up at an east coast park!
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All at once the ghosts come back reeling you in now.
D'oh!  I was hoping no one here would see the ad and find out about the "name the coaster" contest for the proposed coaster and I could win it!  ;)
You know, I always have to laugh at all of the "experts" in the coaster community who are so quick to point out that something is "impossible"! Thank God you fools aren't the same people who actually design coasters, otherwise we'd all still be riding nothing but woodies under 100ft tall! 
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Yeah, look at the Deja Vu's.  They're doing fine(I guess.....).  I'm sure they have taken all of the saftey precautions necessary.  It'll work or they wouldn't have wasted their time.
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hopes you enjoyed the Dahlonega Mine Train.
Can someone find the picture and post it again??
I know what you are all talking about. I saw that in the magazine the other day when i was down at the iaapa convention. (2001). They had a scale model of it and someone had already won the name.
Yeah, it's called Tsunami. What's sad is that I never sent in a reply to the contest, and Tsunami was one I was thinking about sending in...:)

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--Slayer: Thrash band, or the next Nostradamus?

Can somebody repost the picture please
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