95 degree first drop on new coaster.
could you send a copy my way, Peabody? Upsideblue@hotmail.com ? thanks!!
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Kennywood Insider scanned a copy to the net. Look up to find it.
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oh yea. i didnt see it. thanks
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The loads are probably no worse than hanging in a Vekoma flying dutchman harness.
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Ghostrider, stopped counting laps at 100.
The loop on that "ad" looks mighty suspicious. Not that I am declaring that this is a fake... by no means, but it's not the traditional tear-drop shaped loop of which works best.
Instead, it's much more rounded, and I thought that rounded loops don't work out. I swear I heard they were too painful, that's why they are not used.
BY THE WAY: What company is planning on making this? Is it Gerslauer? Who are they and what track records have they had in the past?
All just doesn't seem right to me. Looks nice, but I don't know.
The whole coaster looks freaky, but honestly:
What's so special about it besides the lift hill/over 90 degree drop and a single loop?
I have the feeling it's going to be similar to Alton Towers' Oblivion where it just has a single new element and then BASICALLY returns back to the station.
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Instead, it's much more rounded, and I thought that rounded loops don't work out. I swear I heard they were too painful, that's why they are not used.
BY THE WAY: What company is planning on making this? Is it Gerslauer? Who are they and what track records have they had in the past?
All just doesn't seem right to me. Looks nice, but I don't know.
The whole coaster looks freaky, but honestly:
What's so special about it besides the lift hill/over 90 degree drop and a single loop?
I have the feeling it's going to be similar to Alton Towers' Oblivion where it just has a single new element and then BASICALLY returns back to the station.
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Dawg Byte: You're right, loops are very often teardrop shaped, but many aren't, and are very fun. Check this one out:
http://www.joyrides.com/sfaw/full/texas_tornado3.htm
What's so special about the ride other than the drop and loop? I don't know, but..What's so special about Magnum and Shivering Timbers? They're just a bunch of hills. What's so special about a wild mouse? It's just a bunch of curves and a little hill or two. I've been decieved by a lot of coasters and now I don't judge anything until after I have ridden it.
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- Peabody
http://www.joyrides.com/sfaw/full/texas_tornado3.htm
What's so special about the ride other than the drop and loop? I don't know, but..What's so special about Magnum and Shivering Timbers? They're just a bunch of hills. What's so special about a wild mouse? It's just a bunch of curves and a little hill or two. I've been decieved by a lot of coasters and now I don't judge anything until after I have ridden it.
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- Peabody
good call..
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Dawg Byte, Gerstlaur manufacture's the rolling stock on several CCI coasters: Villian, Boss, Legend, etc. I was surprised to hear that they were making a coaster.
Also, what I said above in another post, scratch that. Basically, no matter what speed you are travelling (safe speeds: that is not literally brake-neck speeds), you are going to get negative G's going over the top of that hill (or any other hill). How are they going to do it?!!?!!?!??
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Also, what I said above in another post, scratch that. Basically, no matter what speed you are travelling (safe speeds: that is not literally brake-neck speeds), you are going to get negative G's going over the top of that hill (or any other hill). How are they going to do it?!!?!!?!??
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Coastercraver: I sure thought that too, but Hypersonic changed my mind. You do a tighter crest on it at a higher speed, and it goes from 90 deg. up to 90 deg. down. The negative Gs are intense....but...this new thing would probably have a slower speed since that's the lift.
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From my calculations, you will be cresting the hill at approximately 5 mph. Did the article have any information on if it was going to have OTSRs? No matter what type of harness it is, you will still be having strong positive G's pushing you into that harness.
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Wouldn't the Gs in the loop be incredibly intense? Schwarzkopf used a circular loop and it produced excessive G's-what's your thoughts?
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That's impossible. I don't think a human could stand the forces of the drop.
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wouldn't it have a differeny amount of G's through the loop, since it's only a 1 car operation?
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Nope, it would be the same. The only way the G force is able to change is by the speed. The faster you go through an element, the more G's you have, whether they are negative or positive.
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Obviously it is possible, or they wouldn't have wasted thier time designing such a ride. Do you think people thought it was possible to go in loops safley in the 50s? Do you think people thought it was realistic to go above 300 feet 5 years ago? Do you think anyone would have dreamed about 7, 8, and even 10 inversion coasters 20 years ago? Do you think that 15 years ago people would belive we would have 90 degree drops? All of the answers are no, but they have all happend (or will happen, for the 10 inversion coaster) so what is hard to belive about this? They even have a working model. No company in thier right mind would do the work up to that point if they knew it wasn't possible.
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Cyclops. 1900 feet of CCI goodness.
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Cyclops. 1900 feet of CCI goodness.
to sum it up for all you guys, either way if its safe or not; if we can stand it or not, its gonna be one HELL of a ride that will have a big uproar if it opens....only time will tell...
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Another one trick pony. How gross.
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on the safety of the ride: not only will the g's be kinda hard to take, but what about the lift hill? all of the weight of the train will be put directly on the chain. that's thing's gonna break and when it does its not gonna be a pretty sight. you guys go ahead and ride it, I'll watch from Raging Bull.
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StealthmF5m3 said:
"That's impossible. I don't think a human could stand the forces of the drop."
Obviously not. Unlike you and me these folks are professional ride engineers who have degrees in the appropriate areas and experience building rides. Do you thing they just drew that by hand and then paid for an ad campaign to sell them if it was either impossible or unsafe/too strong? If they are spending their money to try and sell their product to parks they have most likely thought it through very well.
coasterjedi said:
"all of the weight of the train will be put directly on the chain. that's thing's gonna break "
There have been many coasters with vertical chain lifts: All the Togo Ultra Twisters (The one in America was changed during the move between Jersey and Texas), all the Toboggan Coasters which aren't that much shorter than this thing, and Euro-Mir, among others. After all, it may not even be a chain lift, perhaps they will use a cart/pulley system or elevator lift. Who knows?
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