95 degree first drop on new coaster.
What strain, I don't get it people! The designer would have not designed this if they did not take careful consideration to all of the forces. No ride would be desinged unsafe.
I hardly see why this is a one trick pony. It has many more elements, drops, inversions, then any other vertical drop coaster out on the market right now. It looks amazing, and I hope one comes near me soon. Thanks to Peabody also for his comments, they are good!
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BrandonR said:
"Another one trick pony. How gross.
I hardly see why this is a one trick pony. It has many more elements, drops, inversions, then any other vertical drop coaster out on the market right now. It looks amazing, and I hope one comes near me soon. Thanks to Peabody also for his comments, they are good!
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I'm sorry I have to be so rude here, but this is ticking me off, so...
No matter how much you people think you know about coasters, I guarantee that the designers know more than you, and they've worked this coaster out. Yes it's true, I'm sorry. You can go cry now. *** This post was edited by Clarkbar on 7/10/2001. ***
No matter how much you people think you know about coasters, I guarantee that the designers know more than you, and they've worked this coaster out. Yes it's true, I'm sorry. You can go cry now. *** This post was edited by Clarkbar on 7/10/2001. ***
It's not just a ride for the drop and lood, there are also 3 corkscrews, and another inversion.
I don't know what is with some of you people that think that a drop past 90 degrees would be too much strain on a person, but it's definitely not. The last time this was brought up, there were several people that believed it would never happened because it would be too much stress on the rider...well how do you like it now? :)
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Your best? Losers are always whining about doing there best...winners go home and ******* the prom queen.
I don't know what is with some of you people that think that a drop past 90 degrees would be too much strain on a person, but it's definitely not. The last time this was brought up, there were several people that believed it would never happened because it would be too much stress on the rider...well how do you like it now? :)
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Your best? Losers are always whining about doing there best...winners go home and ******* the prom queen.
I know [CPgenius], seriously. I can't believe some of you are STILL saying that this won't work. Oh, I forgot, you definetely know more than the roller coaster engineers of Gerslauer. I mean come on. Some of you are acting like little children who won't admit they are wrong even after something has been proven... Hey, if you are so sure that it won't work, or that the drop will be too intense, then don't ride it. Less lines for the rest of us.
Oh, and by the way, you know what else people said was impossible way back when...
A coaster to go upside-down!
A coaster to go through a corkskrew!
A stand up coaster!
An inverted coaster with inversions!
A coaster to be 200 feet high!
A coaster to be 300 feet high!
*A thrill ride to be 700 feet high!* *** This post was edited by FloridaCoasterRider on 7/11/2001. ***
Oh, and by the way, you know what else people said was impossible way back when...
A coaster to go upside-down!
A coaster to go through a corkskrew!
A stand up coaster!
An inverted coaster with inversions!
A coaster to be 200 feet high!
A coaster to be 300 feet high!
*A thrill ride to be 700 feet high!* *** This post was edited by FloridaCoasterRider on 7/11/2001. ***
I have several comments about this. First of all I agree that whether it's possible or not, I'm not the one (and neither is most of the people here) who would be able to know for sure. I have faith that if they ever build one that they've put enough time and energy to ensure that it is safe.
Second, what do you people mean that this is a one trick pony. It's got several standard 'tricks' that should prove to round out this ride nicely. The only thing I'm worried about is how this ride will 'ride'. It's got Gerslauer everything, so that doesn't bode well, and it'll be their first coaster, right? Also, there are several one trick ponies that are quite popular with the gp, so even if it is (which it isn't) I don't think it would matter.
Finally, imagine taking this concept one step further. If Intamin could/would build something like this. What if after the lift hill (don't care if the lift is vertical or not) there is a 180 degree turn. Then it starts a 95 degree drop for a while, then an inline twist like S:UE turns the trains around so that they are now falling down an 85 degree drop the other way. Sound fun to me, and what if that was a 200 ft. plus drop. Only the first 30 or so feet would be inverted, but what a freeky sensation that would be.
Second, what do you people mean that this is a one trick pony. It's got several standard 'tricks' that should prove to round out this ride nicely. The only thing I'm worried about is how this ride will 'ride'. It's got Gerslauer everything, so that doesn't bode well, and it'll be their first coaster, right? Also, there are several one trick ponies that are quite popular with the gp, so even if it is (which it isn't) I don't think it would matter.
Finally, imagine taking this concept one step further. If Intamin could/would build something like this. What if after the lift hill (don't care if the lift is vertical or not) there is a 180 degree turn. Then it starts a 95 degree drop for a while, then an inline twist like S:UE turns the trains around so that they are now falling down an 85 degree drop the other way. Sound fun to me, and what if that was a 200 ft. plus drop. Only the first 30 or so feet would be inverted, but what a freeky sensation that would be.
Incidentalist said:
"If Intamin could/would build something like this. What if after the lift hill (don't care if the lift is vertical or not) there is a 180 degree turn. Then it starts a 95 degree drop for a while, then an inline twist like S:UE turns the trains around so that they are now falling down an 85 degree drop the other way. Sound fun to me, and what if that was a 200 ft. plus drop. "
Hmmm, very interesting idea, man. I like that! :)
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Commenting on the forces being too extreme:
DUH, if you look at the image, it says Max G-force 4.5G. 4.5 isn't that much. It's about equal to a couple of B&M rides. Though a few have higher g's.
My old saying does apply to this: RTFM! (Read the F*cking Manual), although it isn't a manual, but still!
Not to mention, this is my 100th post :) I don't post much, I should post a lot :).
The Jet Coaster ROARS!
DUH, if you look at the image, it says Max G-force 4.5G. 4.5 isn't that much. It's about equal to a couple of B&M rides. Though a few have higher g's.
My old saying does apply to this: RTFM! (Read the F*cking Manual), although it isn't a manual, but still!
Not to mention, this is my 100th post :) I don't post much, I should post a lot :).
The Jet Coaster ROARS!
It isn't clear to me why the drop will be uncomfortable. Imagine how you feel when you're descending an 85-degree drop (e.g. MF). How much pressure does your hiney feel? My bet is little to none... you're being accelerated predominantly downward, at almost the same rate as the train, and you feel quasi-free fall. Well the forces on your tush in an 85-degree descent ought to be pretty darn similar to the forces on your lap and/or shoulders in a 95-degree descent. True, your shoulders will "feel" it a bit more because they aren't as sturdy, but the main effect should be unchanged... riders will feel "float" (i.e. the effect of a 90-degree drop), with the addition of mild pressure on their shoulders. The big deal will be that quasi-circular loop, in which I presume the ride attains its advertised 4.5 Gs.
Hello...does anyone still read this?!
To clear some things:
Gerstlauer is a german company, that has a long tradition (but not only for coasters). Anton Schwaruzkopfs best people went there after Anton went bankrupt. They use as well some of the old Schwarzkopf factories.
This will not be their first coaster! They have done some interesting WILD MOUSE rides with a custom design.
This ride looks to be planned for a transportable use on fairgrounds.
I wouldnt wonder if the "over-drop" is done with lapbars and seatbelts only!
After riding "COLOSSOS", i feel perfectly safe on a coaster with these restraints. I havent done a coaster before that just tries to throw you out of the car. COLOSSOS aitime is so extreme, that you actually hear and feel the upstop wheels "burning" the wood.
The only thing i dont get is: WHERE THE HELL ARE THE OTHER INVERSIONS???
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To clear some things:
Gerstlauer is a german company, that has a long tradition (but not only for coasters). Anton Schwaruzkopfs best people went there after Anton went bankrupt. They use as well some of the old Schwarzkopf factories.
This will not be their first coaster! They have done some interesting WILD MOUSE rides with a custom design.
This ride looks to be planned for a transportable use on fairgrounds.
I wouldnt wonder if the "over-drop" is done with lapbars and seatbelts only!
After riding "COLOSSOS", i feel perfectly safe on a coaster with these restraints. I havent done a coaster before that just tries to throw you out of the car. COLOSSOS aitime is so extreme, that you actually hear and feel the upstop wheels "burning" the wood.
The only thing i dont get is: WHERE THE HELL ARE THE OTHER INVERSIONS???
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I hunted around www.rideentertainment.com nothing, some interesting stuff though, plus the official Gerstlauer site is down.
tricktrack, I noticed that too, had another eyeball, holy s***, does that look like a double outside corkscrew??
My 2c, negative drops are possible & I refuse to argue with those who disagree. ;)
tricktrack, I noticed that too, had another eyeball, holy s***, does that look like a double outside corkscrew??
My 2c, negative drops are possible & I refuse to argue with those who disagree. ;)
Dawg Byte said:
"The track would probably have to bend first before it goes down if it goes past 90 degrees... but again, I said it in the post about the possibilities of a 90+ degree angle and I'll say it again...
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE: The amount of strain that it will put on you and the train itself will be too much!!"
How is it impossible, it isn't. You can go over 90 degrees easily without putting alot of strain on you and the train. Spread it out, just like it was said before, the shape of a capital R stretched out.
Dawg Byte said:
The loop on that "ad" looks mighty suspicious. Not that I am declaring that this is a fake... by no means, but it's not the traditional tear-drop shaped loop of which works best.
Instead, it's much more rounded, and I thought that rounded loops don't work out. I swear I heard they were too painful, that's why they are not used.
BY THE WAY: What company is planning on making this? Is it Gerslauer? Who are they and what track records have they had in the past?
Rounded loops have been explained already, many have been made for Schwarzkopf coasters, as we all know. Now I have another little fact of information for everyone. Gerslauer is accually a company with many employees (the founders of the company, too) which came from Schwarzkopf. That is why they know how to make a circular loop. So, in a way, thier track record is very very large. They were in a part of the design process on many Schwarzkopf coasters.
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Hey, SFGAm management, can I buy a couple cages of Sky Whirl?
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