WWF Theme Park
that's the point. an entire park couldn't be supported, but the I don't think that the GP would mind if one area was themed to wrestling. after all, the GP are the ones that are going to be supporting the park/area, not us and not wrestling fans.
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Knott's Berry Farm Cuba ~South Park
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This has nothing to do with whether or not I or anyone else would ride these things. You're clouding the discussion with a non-issue. Of course I'd ride, that isn't the point. The point is that a WWF theme park on any kind of reasonable scale is not one that is family friendly, and non-family friendly amusement parks can't survive. If your mom wouldn't be interested, the park wouldn't survive.
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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"
Stars come and go, the lifespan on the names of these coasters wouldn't last, because of how fast these stars come and go. It wouldn't be wise business move at all to name a coaster after a wrestler who might be in the limelight for 6 months at most.
or take the example of Hurler. still a good name for a coaster in or out of the WW theme. you could call a ride The Last Ride, The Rattlesnake, The Game, etc. as long as the themes are generalized, they can be changed around if the origional superstar leaves or is injured. they could also be made to be more family friendly and cater to those outside of the wrestling community. now if that happened then the park could survive, but the problem is that people won't know that its for everyone and not just for fans.
the other problem is the stigma that comes with being a fan. as we have seen in this topic alone, people still perceive wrestling to be something for rednecks. although the company is much more public and much more accepted, there is still a ways to go before wrestling fans are treated as what they are...normal people who like something.
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Knott's Berry Farm Cuba ~South Park
Anybody who thinks this park would work just because wrestling has a huge fanbase is wrong. We're talking about a single park, not a chain. That would mean that people from outside of the immediate area where that park is located would have to plan a trip to go there. How many people do you think would really travel anything over a couple of hours to go to a WWF park? Yeah, there would be your enthusiasts that would go to ride the rides, and it would probably draw a decent take from the area, IF there wasn't any competition. But a kid begging his parents to go to "wherever" to visit the WWF park won't get his wish. What family is going to base their vacation around a wrestling park? Not many.
On the other hand, I do think a section of a park would work. And if I was already at the park I would ride whatever they offered. BUT I will not go to a park based entirely on wrestling.
*** This post was edited by Incidentalist on 12/10/2001. ***
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*** This post was edited by CoasterDude316 on 12/11/2001. ***
How many parks rely on people travelling great distances? The Disney, Busch and Universal parks and CP (which doesn't necessarily rely on these people, but packs them in nonetheless). Am I missing any? Most parks are regional parks and rely for the immediate surrounding area to completely support the park, hence smaller parks in smaller cities aren't as big as parks located near major metropolitan areas. So if one WWF park is built, where would it go. I guarantee that it's location will be the biggest factor in this parks survival. It would have to be built somewhere in the vacinity of other parks that draw family vacationers. It's easy to say that people will travel great distances to go to this park but are you really going to travel across several states for a WWF park? Sure people on here would, and would also hit 4-5 parks on the way. But generally most people don't go to any parks other than the regional ones and "known" vacation destinations. If it held large wrestling matches it could boost attendance for that weekend or whatever, but if that is what the park is relying on to survive, good luck.
I never implied that just because a park isn't a chain it couldn't survive. BUT if it doesn't cater to families it wouldn't. Name one small park, or any for that matter, that doesn't cater to families. Lot's of people HATE wrestling, but how many hate Disney, Bugs Bunny, Nickelodeon, etc... Now I don't necessarily watch anything on Nick or even see many Disney movies, but they are a non-threatening subject matter that appeals to the masses. Every park has something that caters to children. Sure rides could be built around wrestling themes, but come on two muscular, sweaty guys isn't really what a child is interested in. Which reminds me to ponder why so many men like to watch two big sweaty men grappling each other in something they already know is staged, hmmmm.
*** This post was edited by Incidentalist on 12/11/2001. ***
This is just my personal opinion, but we all have to realize that what we have going here(being coaster addicts), to alot of people is completely stupid. Alot of the GP think we are nuts for fantasizing, analyzing, and worshiping trains that run on a track. We all have our fetishes and hope that other people respect it.
As far as a WWF theme park? Anything is possible. If Vince could team up with someone that has been in the amusement park business for awhile, then I say go for it! I know for a fact that if he built one in New York it would take off quickly. Paramount should capatalize on having the rights to WWF products and create small themed areas in their parks geared around the WWF product. It couldnt hurt.
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""An hour wait for a 2 minute thrill. Yes, we need our heads examined""
you guys are killing me.....the RISKS they take?? Please, Chitown....you said it yourself, it's theatrical....choreographed, practiced, and staged. They are in a ring with a floor that has as much give as a mattress.
I'm not frightened of the WWF demographic because I think it's redneck, I'm afraid of ALL of the WWF fans regardless of where they live. Especially the families that teach this crap to their children. The mother of the 7 year old in the earlier post is a great example. Wonder how that kid will turn out? Have you people not seen enough crap on the news and Springer about kids who think this stuff is real and re-create it in their backyards only to get hurt? duh.
Incidentalist: I have to agree with your last sentence......oh yeah, right......they're watching it for the women. Yeah, the same way Hooters is about OWLS......
Liz
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"Yeah? Well, I used to kill for the CIA."
as for your little rant about the "fakeness" of wrestling, let me tell you that its not choreographed. while the outcomes may be fixed, the wrestling isn't. and the ring isn't as soft as one might think. Mick Foley was thrown off the top of a cell through a table and was then chokeslamed through the cage down to the mat. it was the second fall that knocked him out. it isn't as forgiving as you think. (I'm sorry if this is violating TOS, please remove it if it is)
as for why people would watch it and also come to a park themed around it, its because its entertainment. its no different than watching Star Trek and then wanting to go to ST: The Experience. why do people watch wrestling? the real question should be, why do people watch anything else? we like to be entertained and some people are entertained by the daring feats that the men and women of the WWF and other promotions do. they are captivated by the unique storylines. Vince said it best in Beyond the Mat, "We make movies." and as we've seen, some movies provide for great themes in parks. why not add another theme that families wouldn't mind experiencing and that would draw fans?
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Knott's Berry Farm Cuba ~South Park
I love how you ignore the reality in the rest of my post and only address my opinion.
as for "the real question, why do people watch anything else?" maybe we're afraid watching the WWF will suck I.Q. points out of our heads.
want daring feats? go to the circus
Liz
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