WWF Theme Park

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why build a billion dollar thme park on a fad, which would probably be over way before the park was finished.
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HurricaneGeauga- Just in case

Mr. X: are you refering to the whole park or just the section of a park being a bad idea? and what are your reasons?
as I've said before, a whole park would be a bad idea, but, also as mentioned before, parks don't always use 100% family friendly themes. I don't see why a toned down WWF theme would be so bad.
ride themes don't have to include actual matches. you just have to emerse the riders in the world of the theme. for example: a ride themed to The Undertaker could take place in the house that he burned down as a child. this is just off the top of my head and I'm sure that there are better ways to theme the rides.
Hurricane: you're absolutly right. in fact, lets tear down all coasters that are themed after "fads." I'll start the list and you and everyone else can finish it. ok, here goes:

Millennium Force
Batman (all of them)
Superman (all of them)
all of the islands at Islands of Adventure except for Lost Continent and the Port of Entry.
both Universal Studios
and of course all of the Disney, Paramount, and WB parks because those are all themed after so called "fads."

my points: 1. there are plenty of successful parks and rides based on fads.
2. the WWF is not a fad. wrestling is not a fad. the WWF has been around for 50 years. wrestling dates back to Greece and Rome. even if the WWF goes out of business or can't find a new story line that brings back the ratings of its high period, the another orginazation will spring up and take its place like XWF. maybe we'll see a XWF themed ride at one of the Universal parks (I don't know who, if anyone, they have a contract with, but I know they taped matches at Universal Studios).
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Knott's Berry Farm Cuba ~South Park

*** This post was edited by coasterjedi on 12/7/2001. ***

One reason it would NEVER work, is that it would not attrack the "family crowd." I can't think of one park that doesn't at least have an entire section of family rides, or tries to bring them in by building them. I don't think a WWF park could do this...

-L(maybe a section could work)
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GO CU! Big 12 Champs!

As far as boycotting is concerned, people have been boycotting Disney World for years for one reason or another. If I remember correctly, Disney still has the largest attendance figures in the country, even with the boycott.

I like the idea just beacuse the WWF has soooooo much money and imagine how many rides it could build in a matter of 20 years. Who knows, it could become a "triple threat match" between CP vs. SFMM vs. WWF PARK. I am up for any new kind of amusement park. And I think as long as the park stayed non-violent, and was placed in the right location, it could last a long while. They could really make some neat ride names. A lot of people are against it, why be against any sort of new amusement park??? Say this did happen and it didn't work out, it could easily be bought out a few years after operation by Cedar Fair or Six Flags or somebody, and the names and themeing could be changed, and than a prefectly good amusement park is right there for you. I think that it would stay in business though, just because of teenagers and the millions and millions of fans of the WWF. No matter where you go, there are plenty of fans, I think that if it was located right, and was managed right, it could last for quite a while.

But it will not happen for a few reasons.

1. WWF's last venture(XFL) flopped horribly.

2. They usually only do stuff that has to do with people getting hurt, physical stuff.

3. They wouldn't know how to manage it right.

*** This post was edited by Denvers-coasters-suck on 12/7/2001. ***

My reason for not wanting a WWF park or section? Because I don't like wrestling, and it is a fad, it comes in and out of style except to a small circle of die-hard fans... a few years from now it will be less popular than it is now, but it won't be gone, then later on it will experience a resurgence (it has done this before). But to me, it's still a bad idea.

I actually think this WWF park should be built.

I'd LOVE to watch it......

Kinda like watching a car accident.

~Tocci

I'll meet you there right after I return from the Religous park being built. Better yet maybe you could combine the two. Maybe a 'Red Sea Smack Down' Chute the chutes ride.
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SFGadv Please I'm begging for a Gyro Drop tower and an ArrowBatic.

Hahahahahaaaaaaaa!

You're killin' me rod!

~Tocci

I've already shared my views on wrestling's status as a "fad" so I will not persue that further besides to say that wrestling is as much a "fad" as coasters and amusement parks are. we are the samll circle of die-hard fans that will follow coasters no matter what, but the GP could easily be turned off by coasters very quickly the same way the GP is turned off by wrestling easily. now I'm pretty sure that none of us consider coasters fads so there is no reason to consider wrestling a fad. while ratings may drop, popularity doesn't necessarilly drop. as I stated before, there are rival promotions that will pick up the ratings that the WWF drops and if they don't then there's always the indy circuts.

whether or not you like wrestling is irrevelant. I can't stand bugs. they freak me out. yet I think that Mantis would jump into my top five list if I ever rode it.

I still don't believe that a WWF park would fail, but the idea of a themed section of a park seems highly probably and successful. the reson a park wouldn't make it is that it woudn't be supported. not even the whole core audience will support it. as I said before, people aren't going to pay $30 dollars to waste their day looking at a theme. the people that are going to be attracted to a WWF themed ride would be coaster enthusiasts. now a WWF theme would be great as an area because the WWF and amusement parks share a large demographic, but that demographic woudln't be able to support a whole park.

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Knott's Berry Farm Cuba ~South Park

The difference is that you can participate (ride) in the coaster "fad," whereas you get to sit on the sidelines for 'rasslin' as everyone calls it.

In a themed area we are basically talking about thrill rides with a wrestling theme Rides would probably be given names that would last longer than the theme of the area like The Undertaker(woodie) The Stunner or Hell In The Cell(flight of fear type ride) Smackdown (steelie)

Hurler outlasted Wayne's World Flight Of Fear outlasted Outer Limits the Super Saturator will probably outlast the Nickelodeon cartoons attached to it

Yech.. I hate wrestling. Its fake and very lame.. Why would we need a wrestling themepark? I'm sure no parents and families (most) wouldn't come to the park.. All wrestling.... :(
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"Roar" You'll never hear the end of it!

I would like to be the first to thank ROAR for reading the previous posts before adding his reply. obviously he read, and followed, my request to refrain from including opinions of WRESTLING on a COASTER board.

as for the attendance that ROAR refered to, yes, most families would aviod a whole park themed to an adult show, but who, in their right mind, would boycott a park just because one area is themed to something they find offensive?

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Knott's Berry Farm Cuba ~South Park

Wrestling isn't a fad, but the next event you go to, look around at the demographic. Not a lot of families in the audience, are there? Families = 3+ admission, more hot dogs, more souveniers, etc. The draw would be too limited.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"

When your at a wrestling event in person, there are alot more families there then you'd actually think. i admit that there isnt an extremely large number but the number would surprise most of you. I was just recently ringside at Smackdown! Tapings in Albany, NY (if you wanna see pictures from the event, email me I posted my pics online)which aired on November 15th on UPN, and I was surprised at the amount of families there attending w/their children. The number was rather large. I was right on the floor ringside, and next to me was a family of 5, all who seemed to enjoy the show a great deal.

I wish that when i started this topic that i said a themed area instead of whole theme park because the more i think about it a whole park wouldnt be as sucessful. but a themed area would be. I forget which park it was, but last year one park had a Haunted House around Halloween time dedicated to the Undertaker, and it was one of the more popular attractions at the park that year. (anyone remember which park it was?)

TrBiggar said:

The main reason I wouldn't want one is it would be a magnet for people like Will. I know none of you know Will, but just think pasty-white, quote-too-much, crazy, greasy haired, raggy clothes wrestling freak. I know thats not what all wrestling fans are like, but there has got to be more than one of them, and they would flock to the park (daily, probably)
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Hi! I'm Hungry, whats your name?

Have you ever looked at the people in the park before? Next time your in a park, look around I bet you will find Will or someone like him.

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Welcome back riders, hope you've enjoyed your ride, push down and then pull up on your lap bars and exit to your right, walk down the exit ramp and enjoy the rest of your day here at Paramount's Kings Island.

Include me in on the list of people avioding this park like the plague. I totally agree with everyone having their own opinion and not bashing other peoples choices, but IMO "professional" wrestling is the biggest waste of time ever conceived. Don't even compare this new brand of B.S. wrestling with Greco-Roman and traditional wrestling. I was friends with the majority of the wrestling team in high school, and not a one of them watched the WWF or WCW. It's apples and oranges. One is true competition and one is a scripted theatrical production. I have a hard time getting worked up over such nonsense.

If this park is to succeed it would need to be joint venture between wrestling, Nascar and the Jerry Springer show sponsered by the enormously famous makers of "Beer" and "Cola". Free cigarettes to all who enter who are over 18. I may be wrong and you may disagree but remember this is MY opinion on this matter, based on MY life experiences. Open fire.

Jeff said:
"Not a lot of families in the audience, are there?"

Here I am going to have to disagree. Having actually been to several wrestling events over the years (including StarCade), and watching the people on the train going to the MCI center here in DC when there is an event, I would argue that *quite a bit* of families go to these events. Perhaps you havent been looking closely in the audience. But I've spotted NUMEROUS 'family-looking' groups (pre-teen boys bracketed by Motherly and Fatherly types). I think you're mistaken.

I realize some people never want to see this, and that's fine. Personally, I have no desire to see 'Wizard of Oz' themeing in a park. Does that mean I wouldn't go there? Not necessarily.

Oh, and one other thing, why do you all suppose that they couldnt theme 'family' attractions to WWF themes? I can think of several off the top of my head:
DudleyVille: A kiddie interactive play area with a big foam/ball pit, replete with foam tables :)
The Billion Dollar Princesses Castle: Kinda like Cinderella's Castle
Boiler Room Brawl: Dark ride like DLs Haunted Mansion
King of the Ring: Upcharge Sumo Suit game
Ladder Match: That silly rope ladder game that's in every park.
Cage Match: The silly rock climbing wall
And that's without even putting much effort into thinking.

And it's extraordinarily funny that coaster/park lovers are so quick to call something a fad. Knowing the history of amusment park, one should recognize that the whole industry is cyclical. Coasters are 'en vouge' now, but there was a time when they fell out of favor (anyone remember a little place called Riverview?).

Again, you neither have to like the idea, nor support it, but understand that it does have merit.
lata,
me
--"D-von! GET THE TABLE!" Buh-Buh Ray Dudley

Incidentalist said:
"Don't even compare this new brand of B.S. wrestling with Greco-Roman and traditional wrestling. I was friends with the majority of the wrestling team in high school, and not a one of them watched the WWF or WCW. It's apples and oranges."

So people at your school didnt watch it, is this supposed to be some sort of "definitive source" or "expert opinion". Because, like everything, one can find the opposite opinion as well. I need not consort "friends" or "schoolmates". *I* was a wrestler in high school, three years, including Varsity my freshman year. Yet *I* still like to watch wrestling, always have; from WCCW (World Clas Championship Wrestling), to NWA (National Wrestling Alliance), to even G.L.O.W. (Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling). They are televison shows, PERIOD. If you think any more than that, then that is something you need to work out in your own prayer closet. They *are* great athletes, but they simply do demonstrations, not actual competitions. Havent you ever seen a martial arts exhibition?
lata,
jeremy
--"To *be* the man, WHOOOOO, you have to *beat* the man!" (The Nature Boy) Ric Flair

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