Worlds Largest Amusement Park - thoughts
Jeff said:
"Come to think of it, I don't remember seeing the part about planning and design. Was it in the last five minutes? "
Nope, It must have gotten cut. I was glued to that screen!
-------------
I'd Rather Be Riding Rollercoasters
www.mycoasters.homestead.com/mycoasters.html
So I take it that really, nothing was spilled in the original P&D footage? I read over at GTTP that they spoke about their plans (nothing specific) for the next 3-5 years... Would you mind filling us in on the general idea of what they said?
-------------
I'd Rather Be Riding Rollercoasters
www.mycoasters.homestead.com/mycoasters.html
-------------
I'd Rather Be Riding Rollercoasters
www.mycoasters.homestead.com/mycoasters.html
Please. I hope this thread doesn't turn into a "CP in 2002?" thread.
The show, I thought, was great. The best part, by far was sequence about "This kid has to wait 3 1/2 hours!" They faced that kid right up!
Maybe you don't see the humor in that, but oh well. Anyway. When I/we went straight for the Force last year, the line was well past that point, and the wait probably wasn't more than an hour and a half. How they got three hours, I don't know.
-------------
Matt Lynch
Co-Webmaster, Kennywood Boulevard
http://kennywood.coasterbuzz.com *** This post was edited by Lynch on 7/17/2001. ***
The show, I thought, was great. The best part, by far was sequence about "This kid has to wait 3 1/2 hours!" They faced that kid right up!
Maybe you don't see the humor in that, but oh well. Anyway. When I/we went straight for the Force last year, the line was well past that point, and the wait probably wasn't more than an hour and a half. How they got three hours, I don't know.
-------------
Matt Lynch
Co-Webmaster, Kennywood Boulevard
http://kennywood.coasterbuzz.com *** This post was edited by Lynch on 7/17/2001. ***
You guys must not of been paying any attention... CP is getting 12 new rides next year including 5 coasters... A TA2K, a giga-wood with 6 inversions made by B&M, an underground-underwater coaster, a 4-d style super inverdigo, and a seat-less inverted coaster. They will also be getting a third track for gemini and a 900 ft. freefall tower.
I always think it's funny to hear them say Magnum was the first hypercoaster. Actually, some trivia for you, the first hyper coaster was in Japan and it was called Bandit. Dick Kenzel rode it and then right away said "I want this for my park!" Then Magnum was built. It wasn't the first but it was the one that started the popular trend of hypercoasters. Also, CP isn't the largest Amusement Park. That title goes to DW and then SFGAv in New Jersey which is bigger than CP.
Good show though! Get's me pumped to go back to CP on Thursday from Cali!
Good show though! Get's me pumped to go back to CP on Thursday from Cali!
The "Making of a Coaster" show was great until the onrides at the end. They did the usual cut shots showing the people screaming. I wanted to see the ride and all the elments. It would have been a perfect show if they had just left the camera pointing from the front.
Same thing with the Cedar Point show. I couldn't understand a word that dude was saying on MF. The wind was blowing into the mic, and he was screaming. The onride with the morning tester was better. He wasn't screaming, so they showed the track more.
Let the "coaster guy" voice do the play by play and give us a front POV for the entire ride.
Look at MF, they showed the control room computer and the ride op said the time of the ride from when it leaves the chain to the brakes is 59 seconds. Is that too long to show? Can't they give us 1 minute for an uninterrupted POV of MF? I guess I'm asking for too much. They have interviews with people talking that are longer than 1 minute. Man, give us the full POV and quit with the cut shots. It's ok, I've got all the videos that CP gave us last year, but I wanted to see Lightning Racer.
Yeah, I was also looking for the plans with my VCR running. We got our chains yanked on this one.
Now we have nothing to talk about. But the parks know what they're doing 3 years ahead of time. We'll just have to wait, bla, I'm let down, but now I'm starting to get over it.
Time to send off another letter to Discovery asking for full length POVs.
-------------
Robin Fox - "I see Stars, Can You See Them Too?"
*** This post was edited by robvia on 7/17/2001. ***
Same thing with the Cedar Point show. I couldn't understand a word that dude was saying on MF. The wind was blowing into the mic, and he was screaming. The onride with the morning tester was better. He wasn't screaming, so they showed the track more.
Let the "coaster guy" voice do the play by play and give us a front POV for the entire ride.
Look at MF, they showed the control room computer and the ride op said the time of the ride from when it leaves the chain to the brakes is 59 seconds. Is that too long to show? Can't they give us 1 minute for an uninterrupted POV of MF? I guess I'm asking for too much. They have interviews with people talking that are longer than 1 minute. Man, give us the full POV and quit with the cut shots. It's ok, I've got all the videos that CP gave us last year, but I wanted to see Lightning Racer.
Yeah, I was also looking for the plans with my VCR running. We got our chains yanked on this one.
Now we have nothing to talk about. But the parks know what they're doing 3 years ahead of time. We'll just have to wait, bla, I'm let down, but now I'm starting to get over it.
Time to send off another letter to Discovery asking for full length POVs.
-------------
Robin Fox - "I see Stars, Can You See Them Too?"
*** This post was edited by robvia on 7/17/2001. ***
The Cedar Point Documentary were spectacular. My complements to the people that put it all together. the true essence of this famous park came through with so much craft, that you could even tell that the photographers were not the least bit bored of their assignment. The young man that acknowledged his over one thousnd trips on the legendary Magnum XL200 was touching, as he took viewers through the memorable sequence on one of Cedar Points most classic journeys ever experienced on a roller coaster. Thank you Cedar Point. You truly are the Paradise of all Amusement Parks.
*** This post was edited by Virgil Abbage on 7/17/2001. ***
They also cut out the Graphics department (i.e. signs) part.
-------------
http://www.thepointol.com
-------------
http://www.thepointol.com
Full-length POV doesn't make for good television. I don't think enthusiasts will ever understand that. And I think we established this wasn't a POV show. When you write that letter to Discovery, robvia, please be a lot nicer than you were to PKI and try to avoid telling the pros how to produce a TV show.
chris senn: I've had conversations with Dick Kinzel myself on the subject and I don't recall any such story. Bandit has a 255-foot lift, but the actual drop is significantly less (presumably because of terrain). Also. considering it opened only a year before, Magnum was already being developed, if track wasn't already being manufactured at that point. That was too late for "inspiration."
He did say that he visited Fujiyama in Japan as an inspiration for Millennium Force.
-------------
Jeff (who gets really irritated by armchair TV editors, since I've had one too many clients who think they know what a good shot is supposed to be)
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
chris senn: I've had conversations with Dick Kinzel myself on the subject and I don't recall any such story. Bandit has a 255-foot lift, but the actual drop is significantly less (presumably because of terrain). Also. considering it opened only a year before, Magnum was already being developed, if track wasn't already being manufactured at that point. That was too late for "inspiration."
He did say that he visited Fujiyama in Japan as an inspiration for Millennium Force.
-------------
Jeff (who gets really irritated by armchair TV editors, since I've had one too many clients who think they know what a good shot is supposed to be)
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
Why doesn't full length POV make for very good television? Is there a belief that the public only has an attention span of 2.5 seconds?
I guess that is why I don't watch much TV, all those quickly changing shots gets really tiring. It's been a pet peeve of mine for a long time and for more then just coaster shows.
What I really would like to see is a camera on the back end of the train so you can see the train navigating the course. I've seen a few seconds of this here and there and I think it does make interesting viewing :)
-------------
everything's better with a banjo
I guess that is why I don't watch much TV, all those quickly changing shots gets really tiring. It's been a pet peeve of mine for a long time and for more then just coaster shows.
What I really would like to see is a camera on the back end of the train so you can see the train navigating the course. I've seen a few seconds of this here and there and I think it does make interesting viewing :)
-------------
everything's better with a banjo
A little bit of this, a little bit of that, makes something. POV is the kind of thing to get old, what if they were to start this as a trend on the shows, we'd be complaining about this year's POV for this ride, and so on. POV doesn't give me a feel for the rides, IMO, I like it to go back and forth. The first drop is enough, but after that I like to see the people moving around, that's when I notice stuff. The making of a coaster show was awesome, only if I were taking a solo race like that, I'd have to be in the back seat. Those guys were funny, you see the one guy, looked like he flipped his buddy off, that was hilarious, exactly what I'd do to my friend.
The CP edition of World's Largest is so much better than that MM special they've been feeding us. Makes you wonder what park will be next. Anyways, blueprints, you didn't notice them(j/k).......
The CP edition of World's Largest is so much better than that MM special they've been feeding us. Makes you wonder what park will be next. Anyways, blueprints, you didn't notice them(j/k).......
Heh, yeah for the rerun of the show they'll have to do a voice over of Dan's voice when he says how many times he's ridden Magnum since '97. It would go something like this: "Since '97, I have ridden Magnum [insert male voice that sounds completely different than Dan's] 1,595 [end voice, resume with regular voice] times."
I was just thinking how funny that would be ;).
I was just thinking how funny that would be ;).
You must be logged in to post
