Not necessarily. Comparible inverts from B&M and Vekoma are VERY closely priced. I bet there will be some saving on certain things like trains. B&M's seems to be elegant and simple compared to the local area network on wheels that Vekoma uses. ----------------- - Peabody
It's not THAT obvious. Vekoma Flying Dutchman's are also the newest type of Vekoma coasters... so it's not a guarantee.
You got any actual stats on Batwing or X-Flight vs. the new Superman? (Can't count AIR since that has a lot of underground/inground theming which can cost a lot to excevate the ground due to height restrictions.)
I'm sure Vekoma would be more than willing to sell another one of their Flying Dutchman models if a park were to approach them and ask. The real question is, have the problems that have plagued the second generation flyers discouraged any potential customers from going forward with an order?
Honestly, think about it. Why would a park buy a Vekoma flyer if they could get a B&M flyer for the same price?
Gee, that's a tough decision. Have a problem-ridden coaster that may open late in the year and not run to full capacity or have a B&M flyer that will work right from day one and will have the ability to run all possible trains, with very little downtime.
If you owned the park, and both coasters were around the same price, which would you pick?
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DawgByte II said: It's not THAT obvious. Vekoma Flying Dutchman's are also the newest type of Vekoma coasters... so it's not a guarantee. You got any actual stats on Batwing or X-Flight vs. the new Superman? (Can't count AIR since that has a lot of underground/inground theming which can cost a lot to excevate the ground due to height restrictions.)
LTLWcbYbe said: Last years machines(atleast one I know of) were able to operate as designed.
Not quite. Did Batwing and X-flight ever run 3 trains and recline in the station? I saw X-flight on a peak July day run 1 train only with a row roped off all day, the following day...1 train all day (after opening 2 hours late). If I paid for a ride that could operate 3 trains I would want it to, especially on peak days. Some companies can deliver rides that open on time and run all trains from day one, some can't. I wonder why?
Vekoma does offer two different designs from those found in the first two version of the Flying Dutchman. One version has more fly time than the first two versions, and another one is shorter with 2 abreast seating. Both layouts were featured in a First Drop article a year ago I believe.
I remember that Sean. They were a little dissappointing looking to me because of the short length and similarities to the original. I would like to se a LONG flyer. (Especially if it's done by B&M :) ) ----------------- - Peabody
Most likly this will end up like the evolution of the inverted coasters. B&M's will get more amazing, bigger, longer, faster and more expensive. While verkoma's will offer the same flying dutchman model. But maybe the smaller parks that bought SLCs will spend a little extra cash and get small B&M Flying Coasters instead this time. Only time will tell. ----------------- Montu, God Of Coasters
B&M is just pretty much taking everyone elses designs and adding a little twist to them. Like the Vekoma ride, all they did was invert it. And now they are working on a propultion system for there type of track. And for those of you who think that Incredible Hulks lauch was made by them, it was not. US hired an outside company to come in and do that. As for Vekoma flyers, there will probably be some more built in the future.
Everyone...repeat after me: A Vekoma Flying Dutchman will be built...when?...
...When a park ASKS them for one!
I'm not trying to be rude but when will people realize NO coaster gets built without a park asking for one. When will a TERA be built? When a park ASKS! When will B&M build a hyper Flying? When a park ASKS!! Where will the next Arrow 4-D show up? At which ever park ASKS Arrow for it.