With the "revelation" that lap bars are safe while upside down, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a couple hypers incorporating a few inversions. I still can't imagine why there hasn't been a hyper with a record breaking loop.
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It depends what inversions you are talking about Roar. You don't necessarily need OTSRs. As much as people don't like the idea of inversions on a hyper, you can't deny that an 180ft.+ loop would be incredible. It's not a matter if they can have loops, does the park want them?
Another factor would be cost. A B&M hyper multi-looper would have a tremendous cost. The technology is definitely there, but there's got to be a park willing to do it and have a check book large enough.
hey roar. people dont want loops on hypers. look at steel phantom aside from the headbanging i think i would hate the loops!! its combining 2 different coaster types. and there is defonately going to be one half that is better then the other, thus making people wish they had added 4 bunny hops instead of 2 loops or something like that. if there was a loop on SFDL superman, i would go nuts. i would be so mad. even if they had lap bars. cause instead of that 150 foot loop they could have had a 150foot hill that would give lots of airtime.
and for some reason i hate ALL normal sit down loopers yet i love floorless. i find it wierd. even kumba doesnt make it into my top 10.
When Kennywood built the Steel Phantom, I think they tried to do too much. They wanted a looper, and they wanted a huge record breaking coaster. They got both, but the only problem was track/trains, really. It was a great design, but the bottom of the second drop was way too rough.
I agree with Compressed Airhead. Although this isn't really trying something new. Alpengeist is 197 feet tall and it's a looper. It's almost a hyper. I mean, looping coasters used to be under 100 feet, and they surpassed that barrier.
I just think it's funny how people say it would feel weird riding a hyper looper. Yeah it felt weird going upside down for the first time too. Coasters are evolving, and that's going to continue for a long time...
I think the Intamin hypers could probably do most of the inversion elements we see today (heck, Millennium Force has three cutbacks on it :) ), but the Arrow and Morgan coaches are probably too long to navigate any looping element that isn't enormous. Well, Phantom's Revenge could probably handle inversions, but then, that's an Arrow multi-element chassis.
The general consenus seems to be that hypers with inversions might be too intense to be enjoyable for the general public. I would definitely enjoy a hyper with loops, i would consider Alpengeist an hyper and thats on my top 10.