Which Coasters Should be Sold for Scrap?
I just think the person who says a coaster should be torn down, Is not a coaster lover at all.
It may not be your bread and butter but it might be sombody elses! Oh, Did you ever think that future generations might not get to ride?
Chuck, who says if you don't like a particular ride, Then ride the ones you do. Most people are lucky to have a coaster within a half a days drive.
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Charles Nungester
Americana is opening in 2002 and needs your support as many company picnics are already schedualed for someplace else, Indivdual visits are very improtant to the parks survival.
"Hello, if you knew anything, descending down the first drop gives you positive g's."
No. The bottom of a first drop should give you a dose of positive g's. Actually descending down the drop should deliver g's less than 1.0.
" If you're saying a 200 foot drop is a dead ramp, and that a loop is the only good contribution to the ride, then tough luck. Welcome to the world of woodies."
LOL! Yes, Son of Beast really is your typical woodie, isn't it? Name me one other that features a 200' drop and a loop. Sorry, that's not the world of woodies. I'd so much rather have something half the height of SOB.
"The layout doesn't have problems, you've got problems."
I happen to think it's a boring layout. Having a different opinion does not mean I have problems.
"You'd rather be dead than ride Shockwave?"
Wow, that was taken out of context. I never said I would rather be dead - I said I'd rather suffer the one blow of a baseball bat than the many blows of Shockwave. I never mentioned dying.
"Mainy reviews say that Shockwave is the best of the three because it is the only one that keeps its intensity."
I've never seen that said until now.
"You'd be lucky to have Shockwave, my looper is a 5 second Arrow Corkscrew. "
I'd rather have that - it's a lot harder to get an Arrow headache in five seconds.
"Tobbogans aren't cheap man and if you've got $200,000 to spare then let me see it. "
Oh, yes, you're right - $200,000 isn't cheap compared to $14 million. What was I thinking?
"They're rarely seen as and weren't made to be traveling rides."
Is that why they're trailer-mounted?
"Tell me why you're on a Tobbogan in the first place? "
I'll try any coaster once. And I hated it.
"They're not made for immature teenagers, they're for youngsters."
Funny, I must have missed the sign that explained who the ride was catered to.
"Those spiral drops don't look ugly, they're actually much more appealing to the GP than a turn-drop-turn-brake Miler kiddie coaster, which is why parks by them. "
Again, I don't believe a Chance Toboggan is a replacement for a kiddie coaster, especially considering the fact that parks that do have a Toboggan also have a kiddie coaster.
"Predator is just Predator, it is violent and may not be to yourr liking, but is still a woodie that deserves some respect for being their. "
Predator does nothing. As I said above, it's not violent - it's boring. It shuffles, rattles, and bumps through the course with no laterals and no airtime. I don't know what in that ride you would enjoy.
-Nate (who is actually having a really good day!)
*** This post was edited by coasterdude318 on 3/31/2002. ***
Yes, I'm a coaster enthuisast. We all are. That's why we participate in these forums.It's great that there is this thread. I Love It..... I believe that it's wonderful to have an opinion good or bad about coasters. Just as long as people don't attack others for having an opinion that conflicts with theirs.I learn alot about critism good or bad. I think it's good for people especially parks and coaster designers to get real feedback.It makes for better coasters. I definately share many of the opinions in this thread. Let's not be so dissillusioned into believing that every coaster is great.Why support a coaster because it's a coaster.So parks and designers can continue to make the same mistakes over and over.There is lot's to be said about the positive feedback as well especially when it comes down to design.I personally learned so much from this site about coasters and what works and what doesn't.Let's not get clinically senstive about critism.Just gotta jump off the soap box.
RubberDucky said:
Just because someone thinks a coaster should be torn down doesn't make them not a coaster lover. I think most would agree in here that if we want a coaster torn down we want something in it's place. And with my personal post, I said Twister II should either be replaced, have a name change, or be modified. Just had to defend my self there.
Well Gee, Let me ride it before you have them TAER IT DOWN :)
Chuck, who understands SFEG suffers from a few problems but would like to ride T2 anyhow to judge for himself. :)
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Charles Nungester
Americana is opening in 2002 and needs your support as many company picnics are already schedualed for someplace else, Indivdual visits are very improtant to the parks survival.
gotta agree with Chuck on this one...and YES, I really did enjoy TopCat's Taxi Jam. Thought I was gonna have a harder time convincing the 6-year old's mother that I wasn't strange...(at least not in THAT way).
Never forget that there were once 1,000 coasters operating, and then the number fell to around 150...or else there might be 150 again...
If you really believe SOB is an example of the progression of wooden coasters, that's fine - but we'll see how long it takes before we start seeing "hyperwoodies" popping up all over the place. It's not progression if nobody follows. As for the SOB design being based on that of the Beast, I think you'd have to speak with the members of the design team to confirm that one. It makes me wonder why SOB is missing the Beast's other main features.
-Nate
Here's what coasters I would vote off the island:
Boomerang @ Knott's lose it because Valley Fair or MA needs it more.Replace it with something exciting like a dueling Arrow BATic
King Cobra: I applaud PKI for this decision.Just don't replace it with Ricichet OK
WT/DT that's a nice piece of land that has never been utilized properly
Replace Corkscrew with Corkscrew send CP's to MA and toss MA's away
other honorable mentions: Flash Back,Viper SFGADV,and every coaster @ SFAW just kidding
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A CCI 200ft out and back would rock
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A CCI 200ft out and back would rock
Coaster Bob said:
CP would not feel the same without the corkscrew travelling over the midway.
Definately an ICON of the park. Getting rid of corkscrew (as lame a coaster as it may have become) would be like getting rid of Revolution at SFMM or The Beast at PKI. These rides have way to much history and (more importantly) visual expectency. When you go to Cedar Point, you expect to see the corkscrew sitting right on the midway. Just the same as you expect to see Revolution's loop peeking from the trees. Some rides are more like landmarks. I would rather see it shut down and remain standing as a monument before being removed.
As far as I am concerned, there are two coasters that i would have no problem seeing dismantled and melted down/ burnt to the ground. Flashback AND Psyclone, both at SFMM are the WORST (IMO) coasters in existence and the only ones that i will avoid at all costs.These things arent even ridable (IMO again). I know that there are SOME people who claim to like these two rides, but the majority of those who ride them will agree that they are absolutely horrendous.
Flashback is so bad that Intamin didnt even bother to try to improve or modify the design. It remains the one and only hairpin drop coaster (for good reason). Psyclone's problem.....Beats me, but the ride is so UNBEARABLY rough that I'd rather have a root canal.
There are plenty of other coasters that are "boring" or somewhat rough, but they are still ridable.
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I've traded in my 2000 Giovanola for a 2002 Arrow X4D :)
My other car is now an Arrow X4D!
Rollergator, I hope your right about PKI it has been rumored (as I said rumored) that PKI was going to replace KC w/ Ricochet and a pay per ride attraction.
Last time I checked, it would serve the intrest of KBF to have a higher capacity coaster especially a dueling ArrowBATic .The coaster can be created on a small footprint.And would raise the Bar on the Multi Looper catagory.
Besides, what park CEO is really going to make a decision about a ride based on what I say in some thread.
So ride flashback as much as your little heart desires.
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A CCI 200ft out and back would rock
I second the motion for an inverted mouse/ArrowBatic
Let's start a grassroots campaine "03 Inverted for PKI" say "I"
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A CCI 200ft out and back would rock
Coaster Bob said:
I second the motion for an inverted mouse/ArrowBatic
Let's start a grassroots campaine "03 Inverted for PKI" say "I"
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A CCI 200ft out and back would rock
I think a SLC will fit in there :)
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Charles Nungester
Americana is opening in 2002 and needs your support as many company picnics are already schedualed for someplace else, Indivdual visits are very improtant to the parks survival.
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